Who's better........Kobe or Jordan?

First topic message reminder :

I kid....I kid.....



Da WOLF iz in the H.

Raza wrote:

Kobe had Shaq, Karl Malone, and Gary Payton.

Malone was old you cant possibly expect him to help kobe out?
Gary payton didnt fit well with the Triangle so he was ineffective.
Shaq was the only other good player and they didnt get Along

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

Other things Alpha wolf said that weren't true.

"kobe played 8 MPG his first 2 years and didnt contribute much to the team"

Kobe played 15 MPG his rookie year and 26 MPG his second year.

"MJ choked in college"

MJ hit the game winning shot in college to win his team the title

"Pippen played alot his rookie year and almost averaged a triple double in the playoffs"

Pippen averaged 10 PPG and 5 RPG his rookie year in the playoffs



this guys is clearly talking out of his ass

Ok I said Kobe Barely played...his first 2 years.....8 minutes...16 minutes?

I said when MJ was 19 - 20 he was choking in the ncaa tournement....that's 100% true.

I said at the end of the season Pippen was playing alot and nearly averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE,,,not triple double.


coprehend much?

KB24-Hustlin wrote:

Malone was old you cant possibly expect him to help kobe out?
Gary payton didnt fit well with the Triangle so he was ineffective.
Shaq was the only other good player and they didnt get Along

Whoawhoawhoa

We can't use the old line for Jordan but you can use it for Malone?

Being a great defender has nothing to do with the triangle, so he made contributions on defense, right?

Oh yeah I forgot, Kobe drove the Lakers' best player out of town because he didn't like him...thanks for reminding me

AlphaWolf wrote:

jade wrote:

It was Mo Peterson Alpha, not Williams.

You guys seriously need to chill.

yeah..I mixed the Mo's....

anyways I'm chillin like champagne at a Outcast afterparty......it's all good.


it's fun actually.

=]

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Raza, you need to get scared so your hiccups will go away.

Raza wrote:

KB24-Hustlin wrote:

Malone was old you cant possibly expect him to help kobe out?
Gary payton didnt fit well with the Triangle so he was ineffective.
Shaq was the only other good player and they didnt get Along

Whoawhoawhoa

We can't use the old line for Jordan but you can use it for Malone?

Being a great defender has nothing to do with the triangle, so he made contributions on defense, right?

Oh yeah I forgot, Kobe drove the Lakers' best player out of town because he didn't like him...thanks for reminding me

Malone was Injury prone, and being a C, PF your knees give up eventually, and when he got injured the team was doomed. Gary contributed on Defense but not on offense, Shaq was a lazy man who was a bad influence anywayz they were better off with out him.

jade wrote:

Raza, you need to get scared so your hiccups will go away.

Okay, I just heard somebody talking in this crazy voice I've never heard before, and everybody else in my house is asleep. I'm scared lol and...


MY HICCUPS ARE GONE

Raza wrote:

jade wrote:

Raza, you need to get scared so your hiccups will go away.

Okay, I just heard somebody talking in this crazy voice I've never heard before, and everybody else in my house is asleep. I'm scared lol and...


MY HICCUPS ARE GONE

mmhmmm

AlphaWolf wrote:

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

Other things Alpha wolf said that weren't true.

"kobe played 8 MPG his first 2 years and didnt contribute much to the team"

Kobe played 15 MPG his rookie year and 26 MPG his second year.

"MJ choked in college"

MJ hit the game winning shot in college to win his team the title

"Pippen played alot his rookie year and almost averaged a triple double in the playoffs"

Pippen averaged 10 PPG and 5 RPG his rookie year in the playoffs



this guys is clearly talking out of his ass

Ok I said Kobe Barely played...his first 2 years.....8 minutes...16 minutes?

I said when MJ was 19 - 20 he was choking in the ncaa tournement....that's 100% true.

I said at the end of the season Pippen was playing alot and nearly averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE,,,not triple double.


coprehend much?

where do you get your info? 15 MPG and 26 MPG... not 8 and 16.

and it isnt 100% true that MJ was choking in college.

He averaged over 16 PPG in college and again... hit the game winning shot to win his team the title...


and I meant double double.. not triple trouble

Raza wrote:

Blaze wrote:

So ..... any of ya'll gonna check out Vick's debut game with the Eagles against the Jags? I usually don't get into pre-season but I gotta check this out

YES!

Vick was my favorite player before the dogfighting and now that he's back, he's my favorite again.

I can't wait supposedly there going to have Vick and Mcnabb on the field at the same time for some plays and this is gonna be good.

Raza after hearing noise:

KB24-Hustlin wrote:

Malone was Injury prone, and being a C, PF your knees give up eventually, and when he got injured the team was doomed. Gary contributed on Defense but not on offense, Shaq was a lazy man who was a bad influence anywayz they were better off with out him.

I'm on Wikipedia, and it said that in the Finals, Malone only missed 1 game. They were already down 3-1, so there wasn't much hope for a comeback anyway. Malone played the other 4 games. BTW, isn't this the Finals Kobe did horrible in?

That "lazy man" led the taem to 3 titles (and getting 3 Finals MVPs while at it)

West Coast Bias wrote:

Raza after hearing noise:

You wont sleep tonight hahaahah

jade wrote:

mmhmmm

Lol, my hiccups are weird. Either they come 1 hiccup every now and then, or a little group of hiccups every now and then. Never will I have a lot of hiccups at once

Blaze wrote:

I can't wait supposedly there going to have Vick and Mcnabb on the field at the same time for some plays and this is gonna be good.

Yeah, the Wildcat offense, right? I think Miami used it a lot last season

the wildcat O is gonna be shut down this year.

teams caught on at the end of the year

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

the wildcat O is gonna be shut down this year.

teams caught on at the end of the year

But when you have the threat of Vick/McNabb or maybe even Westbrook running OR throwing the ball, it gets pretty confusing. Vick and McNabb can run for QBs, and they can throw. It'll be interesting to see how other teams approach this

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

AlphaWolf wrote:

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

Other things Alpha wolf said that weren't true.

"kobe played 8 MPG his first 2 years and didnt contribute much to the team"

Kobe played 15 MPG his rookie year and 26 MPG his second year.

"MJ choked in college"

MJ hit the game winning shot in college to win his team the title

"Pippen played alot his rookie year and almost averaged a triple double in the playoffs"

Pippen averaged 10 PPG and 5 RPG his rookie year in the playoffs



this guys is clearly talking out of his ass

Ok I said Kobe Barely played...his first 2 years.....8 minutes...16 minutes?

I said when MJ was 19 - 20 he was choking in the ncaa tournement....that's 100% true.

I said at the end of the season Pippen was playing alot and nearly averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE,,,not triple double.


coprehend much?

where do you get your info? 15 MPG and 26 MPG... not 8 and 16.

and it isnt 100% true that MJ was choking in college.

He averaged over 16 PPG in college and again... hit the game winning shot to win his team the title...


and I meant double double.. not triple trouble

1 . Kobe Barely played his first 2 years...that's my point.

2. Mj did Choke in college after Worthy(the 82 MOP after making the game winning steal)
In 1982, after winning the title, James Worthy left for the NBA. Jordan would go on to win The Sporting News’ College Player of the Year during the next two seasons. His teams were very talented, as they boasted such players as Sam Perkins (#4 pick in the 1984 draft…right behind Jordan), Brad Daugherty (#1 in the 1986 draft) and Kenny Smith (#6 in the 1987 draft). The players were there and Jordan was there with his mythical "will to win". How many more championships did Carolina win during Jordan's career? None. How many final four appearances? None. Jordan choked, and when I say choke, I mean his teams failed to live up to their seed. Despite having a #1 and a #2 seed, Jordan's teams were defeated in the sweet 16 and the Elite Eight.

3.Pippen nearly averaged a Double Double..I was looking at his per in the Playoff's..wich was 10 and 10 a double double.....but he did average 10 5 and 2.......

Raza wrote:

KB24-Hustlin wrote:

Malone was Injury prone, and being a C, PF your knees give up eventually, and when he got injured the team was doomed. Gary contributed on Defense but not on offense, Shaq was a lazy man who was a bad influence anywayz they were better off with out him.

I'm on Wikipedia, and it said that in the Finals, Malone only missed 1 game. They were already down 3-1, so there wasn't much hope for a comeback anyway. Malone played the other 4 games. BTW, isn't this the Finals Kobe did horrible in?

That "lazy man" led the taem to 3 titles (and getting 3 Finals MVPs while at it)

Malone was an OLD MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaq sucks ok?
Kobe is better then him!!
lets not get into it

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

AlphaWolf wrote:

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

Other things Alpha wolf said that weren't true.

"kobe played 8 MPG his first 2 years and didnt contribute much to the team"

Kobe played 15 MPG his rookie year and 26 MPG his second year.

"MJ choked in college"

MJ hit the game winning shot in college to win his team the title

"Pippen played alot his rookie year and almost averaged a triple double in the playoffs"

Pippen averaged 10 PPG and 5 RPG his rookie year in the playoffs



this guys is clearly talking out of his ass

Ok I said Kobe Barely played...his first 2 years.....8 minutes...16 minutes?

I said when MJ was 19 - 20 he was choking in the ncaa tournement....that's 100% true.

I said at the end of the season Pippen was playing alot and nearly averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE,,,not triple double.


coprehend much?

where do you get your info? 15 MPG and 26 MPG... not 8 and 16.

and it isnt 100% true that MJ was choking in college.

He averaged over 16 PPG in college and again... hit the game winning shot to win his team the title...


and I meant double double.. not triple trouble

Just ignore him man this guy has already been permanently banned from insidehoops and hopefully will be gone from here soon. He claims he joined this site for 'honest basketball discussion' but just like on Yahoo and ISH he comes on here just to bash/diminish Michael Jordan.

KB24 wrote:

Malone was an OLD MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaq sucks ok?
Kobe is better then him!!
lets not get into it

So was Jordan, but people say that's not an excuse. Why should it be an excuse for Malone.

Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe when Shaq was in L.A.

Blaze wrote:

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

AlphaWolf wrote:

RƠƇҠ ƠƝ wrote:

Other things Alpha wolf said that weren't true.

"kobe played 8 MPG his first 2 years and didnt contribute much to the team"

Kobe played 15 MPG his rookie year and 26 MPG his second year.

"MJ choked in college"

MJ hit the game winning shot in college to win his team the title

"Pippen played alot his rookie year and almost averaged a triple double in the playoffs"

Pippen averaged 10 PPG and 5 RPG his rookie year in the playoffs



this guys is clearly talking out of his ass

Ok I said Kobe Barely played...his first 2 years.....8 minutes...16 minutes?

I said when MJ was 19 - 20 he was choking in the ncaa tournement....that's 100% true.

I said at the end of the season Pippen was playing alot and nearly averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE,,,not triple double.


coprehend much?

where do you get your info? 15 MPG and 26 MPG... not 8 and 16.

and it isnt 100% true that MJ was choking in college.

He averaged over 16 PPG in college and again... hit the game winning shot to win his team the title...


and I meant double double.. not triple trouble

Just ignore him man this guy has already been permanently banned from insidehoops and hopefully will be gone from here soon. He claims he joined this site for 'honest basketball discussion' but just like on Yahoo and ISH he comes on here just to bash/diminish Michael Jordan.

WTF?..I never was on inside hoops.....My yahoo account is from 07' it's not banned.


stalk much?

Awkward silence.

YS wrote:

AlphaWolf will be killing everyone...
Haha....Loved the arguments you and KING used to have.....

yeah...those were fun.

Raza wrote:

Awkward silence.

I laughed....

Raza wrote:

KB24 wrote:

Malone was an OLD MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaq sucks ok?
Kobe is better then him!!
lets not get into it

So was Jordan, but people say that's not an excuse. Why should it be an excuse for Malone.

Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe when Shaq was in L.A.

ok no excuse its not Kobe's fault they picked uup Old malone

KOBE>>>>>>>>>>>> IVERSON+ SHAQ