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Rush NBA Rookie
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:01 pm | |
| - Rise Against wrote:
- Rush wrote:
- Superskunk wrote:
- *cough* pau gasol*cough
Pau Gasol isn't good... In my opinions.. he didn't really do anything to help the Lakers win. If they had Bosh on the other hand, they could probably be a shoe in to win again. Before Gasol arrived to L.A- they were an average team that had Kobe demanding to be traded.
After Gasol arrived- L.A was good. Made it to the finals but lost to the Celtics. [Bynum was injured and Ariza didn't get enough minutes]. They win the Championship against the Magic the year after that. This year, they win AGAIN against Boston. The Lakers were down 3-2 n the series. Gasol was 1 assist away from a triple double in game 6 and had a 19/18 game in game 7..
yeah... Paul gasol had NOTHING to do with L.A winning. pretty much... except for that huge up and down. | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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Rush NBA Rookie
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:20 pm | |
| I didn't mean it in the way he didn't do anything, I guess I've made a mistake of what I said :S I mean, he did his fair share of work, but they would to better with Bosh on there team... | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:19 pm | |
| Bosh is selfish..selfishness and triangle=fail | |
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Rush NBA Rookie
Posts : 3758 Points : 16055 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-08-11 Age : 34 Location : Toronto
| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:23 pm | |
| Bosh isn't selfish.. He's loyal! | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:24 pm | |
| Thats why he's aboput to shit on toronto and he said " im an addition not a centerpiece" If lebron said that (even tho its true) they would be all over him. | |
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Rush NBA Rookie
Posts : 3758 Points : 16055 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-08-11 Age : 34 Location : Toronto
| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:25 pm | |
| LMAO.. I know but i think he should stay.... just because of that statement, what's the most pefect thing to do than be a center piece and get payed the most. | |
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Raza NBA Superstar
Posts : 12079 Points : 29718 Reputation : 2 Join date : 2009-08-07 Age : 247 Location : Connecticut
| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:39 am | |
| - Rush wrote:
- what's the most pefect thing to do than be a center piece and get payed the most.
Win. | |
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YS NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:48 am | |
| He's a dumbass if he believes this AND wants to win a championship... | |
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Straight Edge Bluntness NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:58 pm | |
| - Mohammad wrote:
- TonyEM: I Inspire wrote:
- He is a centerpiece though a guaranteed 1st or 2nd option talent wise on every teamin the NBA. He speaks the truth. Just cause he may be grouped with a James or Wade does not make him lacking as a centerpiece. He may even be the best player on the court in a lot of the nights as would James and Wade. If he goes with Johnson or Gay then he's actually the 1st option.
I like this, because it states who Bosh really is. Bosh is really a cocky guy, and I'll give it to you with that, but bosh really is the centerpiece. Hes one of the best offensive Power Forwards and does play like Wade or LeBron on some nights. So definitely true, he is the centerpiece of a franchise. The Toronto Raptors wouldn't have won at least 20 games this season if it wasn't for Bosh. Agree with you guys wholeheartedly! | |
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Raza NBA Superstar
Posts : 12079 Points : 29718 Reputation : 2 Join date : 2009-08-07 Age : 247 Location : Connecticut
| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:48 pm | |
| - SRF: Believe wrote:
- Mohammad wrote:
- TonyEM: I Inspire wrote:
- He is a centerpiece though a guaranteed 1st or 2nd option talent wise on every teamin the NBA. He speaks the truth. Just cause he may be grouped with a James or Wade does not make him lacking as a centerpiece. He may even be the best player on the court in a lot of the nights as would James and Wade. If he goes with Johnson or Gay then he's actually the 1st option.
I like this, because it states who Bosh really is. Bosh is really a cocky guy, and I'll give it to you with that, but bosh really is the centerpiece. Hes one of the best offensive Power Forwards and does play like Wade or LeBron on some nights. So definitely true, he is the centerpiece of a franchise. The Toronto Raptors wouldn't have won at least 20 games this season if it wasn't for Bosh.
Agree with you guys wholeheartedly!
Yes, Bosh is the centerpiece for Toronto, but all this free agent talk is about Bosh perhaps LEAVING Toronto to try to win a championship. He's being a cocky idiot who thinks that he should be the first man on any team, so no team can really take him and try to get Lebron/Wade as well | |
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Straight Edge Bluntness NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:56 pm | |
| But has he not proven himself to be a capable centrepiece though? | |
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Raza NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:58 pm | |
| Yeah, but many teams are looking to sign TWO big free agents this summer, and even though Bosh would be a great addition to a team, he's going to want to be the big man on the team, so teams can't use him in addition with another FA better than him | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:59 pm | |
| - SRF: Believe wrote:
- But has he not proven himself to be a capable centrepiece though?
Hell no he hasnt. Look at the raptors... | |
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Raza NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:24 pm | |
| - BOSS wrote:
- Hell no he hasnt. Look at the raptors...
That's true also... | |
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3-peat NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:47 pm | |
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Rush NBA Rookie
Posts : 3758 Points : 16055 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-08-11 Age : 34 Location : Toronto
| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:24 pm | |
| - SRF: Believe wrote:
- Mohammad wrote:
- TonyEM: I Inspire wrote:
- He is a centerpiece though a guaranteed 1st or 2nd option talent wise on every teamin the NBA. He speaks the truth. Just cause he may be grouped with a James or Wade does not make him lacking as a centerpiece. He may even be the best player on the court in a lot of the nights as would James and Wade. If he goes with Johnson or Gay then he's actually the 1st option.
I like this, because it states who Bosh really is. Bosh is really a cocky guy, and I'll give it to you with that, but bosh really is the centerpiece. Hes one of the best offensive Power Forwards and does play like Wade or LeBron on some nights. So definitely true, he is the centerpiece of a franchise. The Toronto Raptors wouldn't have won at least 20 games this season if it wasn't for Bosh.
Agree with you guys wholeheartedly!
Agree. | |
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Straight Edge Bluntness NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:12 pm | |
| - BOSS wrote:
- SRF: Believe wrote:
- But has he not proven himself to be a capable centrepiece though?
Hell no he hasnt. Look at the raptors... Hedo - lazy Bargnani - inconsistent Calderon - inconsistent Wright - selfish Evans - can't make a layup coaching staff - absolutely sucks despite all that, the Raptors were very close to making the playoffs but Bosh's last minute injury hindered them from doing so. I am not saying that Bosh is better than the likes of Lebron for instance, but he is capable of being a centrepiece based on what I have seen him do while he played for the Raptors. | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:14 pm | |
| None of that about there players is factual..even so..Lebron played with a bunch of lazy bums and got his team to the finals THATS why he's a centerpiece..bosh cant lead his team to the playoffs..nuff said | |
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Straight Edge Bluntness NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:16 pm | |
| So what I said about a team that I have watched extensively is false? Enlighten me please. | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:30 pm | |
| Hedo - Borderline allstar in orlando,bonafide leader,put his body on the line play after play..You watched him one season and dub him "lazy"? ..please... Bargnani-17 ppg ,season high was 32...must have been pretty inconsistent Jose- Averaged 12 ppg 8 APG season before last,10 and 6 this year,even though his minutes dropped from 34 to 26 maintaining a 5-1 AT ratio...pretty good player to me. Evans-doesnt play coaching-IDK...Coaches don't touch a basketball. and coaches really have no say in what a player does on the court... | |
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Straight Edge Bluntness NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:40 pm | |
| With regards to Hedo, obviously he was the difference maker for the Magic at the time. But when he played with Toronto...he was brought in to alleviate some of the offensive pressure from Bosh which he clearly did not do at all.
And Bargnani....for someone his size...he should be able to rebound but he doesn't. I believe he averages around 6 rebounds this season. And have you seen him play some nights? Some nights he plays very, very well and other nights...he can go 2-12. Yeah, that can happen with great players as well I know...but he has had his fair share of off nights especially during games when his assistance is drastically needed.
Jose was injured a bit this season and when he was healthy...he was hella inconsistent. If you talk to other Raptor fans, they would easily agree that Jose was not very productive at all during this past season. Thank God for Jarrett Jack cause he is a much more consistent PG and plays with alot of heart and determination. Not to mention, he is a HUGE liability on defense.
Evans DID play actually and received even more minutes when Bosh was injured and he just plain sucks...watch him play a few games and you will have no choice but to agree.
Well yeah, coaches can only do so much but my point is that the coaches for the Raptors do not do enough (some do NOTHING at all). Triano admitted himself that he did not take any time to form relationships with any of the players, Alex English is absolutely useless, their defensive specialist is a joke.
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:03 pm | |
| Ive seen evans..absolute beast on the glass. And bargs being 6'10 ..yeh he's not that great of a rebounder but most europeans are? And hedos struggles..are they really his fault? HEEELLL NO. hedo is a PG..they already had a PG. Basically your saying that the raptors suck..which I wholeheartedly agree with. but a "Centerpiece" could have done alot better with this team.
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Straight Edge Bluntness NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| Have you seen the amount of times he has missed open lay ups? Countless times! His offense is absolutely terrible. Jose was injured this season so why didn't Hedo step up at all during that time? Why? Cause he was getting paid and did not care...not to mention, skipping games to go to clubs...yupp, he was surely dedicated to the Raptors this season. Basketball is a team sport and Bosh's team was not there 100 percent (even though some of them are capable of stepping up) so he had to pick up the load offensively.
He can only do so much with an inconsistent roster, bad coaching staff, disorganized management. If he goes, then I don't blame him because he worked his behind off for this franchise and did his absolute best. He knows he is a great player so its not wrong of him to think that way of himself. Lebron had a subpar supporting cast and was eliminated in the semis. We know that it was not completely his fault and that his team mates weren't stronger enough to achieve greater success. At the end of the day, we know that Lebron is an exceptional talent and can achieve more success in he NBA with the right supporting cast. The same thing can be said for Bosh as well.
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: "im not an addition, i'm a centerpiece" Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:18 pm | |
| Ive seen him blow layups lol..He's the only guy who bricks lay ups. I don't have anything else to say..You think bosh needs a cast, I think bosh is part of a cast | |
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