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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:58 pm | |
| - Greg Oden-Get well!!!!!!! wrote:
- VISA wrote:
- Greg Oden-Get well!!!!!!! wrote:
Also i would add LeBron James to this list too.The guy deserves to be here,he's not so good shooter but when it's about the last second with his incredibble driving ability and confidence at last seconds moments he's clutch.He leads the current players in most clutch shots made
No he doesn't lead the leage in clutch shots made, kobe bryant,carmelo anthony,derek fisher,gilbert arenas and michael redd lead in that. Among the current players he's the leader in most made clutch shots.That's what i read couple of monts ago but it could be changed I don't know where you read that...those 5 i said have been leading for 4 or 5 years now.. | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:01 pm | |
| 82games.com Visa
since he entered the league, they show he has the most | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:04 pm | |
| - Kid in the Green Backpack wrote:
- KB24 wrote:
- Why do you assume the GM's were talking about PERIMETER shooting in that survey? so that you dont feel less bad about it?
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and if going to the lane was so damn easy to do in the final minutes or final possession, why doesn't Kobe do it more often. Did you look at the stats? Kobe is averaging more FTA then Lebron even with less games and way less minutes. And no argument about them not saying he isn't clutch? :/ DEBUNKED nahh Kobe is more clutch then Lebron. Proof http://82games.com/CSORT11.HTMNahh i take back what i said on circumstances. He is Clutch, only when Driving. | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:05 pm | |
| I was on that site..i think i was looking at 06 | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:06 pm | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:07 pm | |
| ohhhh isee, by clutch darko meant gamewinners...clutch usually means last 3 minutees of the 4th quarter. | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:19 pm | |
| - KB24 wrote:
- nahh Kobe is more clutch then Lebron.
Proof http://82games.com/CSORT11.HTM
Nahh i take back what i said on circumstances. He is Clutch, only when Driving. errrr, .8? statistically, that is a negligible difference, as both players, if the stat was mapped would lie very close together within a distribution graph. as well as the fact that we know LeBron has many more shot attempts in the lane. So he goes to the lane more often, Kobe or LeBron? Who makes a higher percent at the rim, Kobe or LeBron? linkgo here and compare the 2007-2008 season (the stats you're using are 2 years old, the stats I used are this year and last year) see how many more attempts LeBron has at the rim and the 5% difference in percentage. go ahead and check the 08-09 and 09-10 seasons, as well. they show the same thing. link | |
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cbi NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:58 pm | |
| - V wrote:
- ohhhh isee, by clutch darko meant gamewinners...clutch usually means last 3 minutees of the 4th quarter.
Clutch changes w/ differant ppl. I think clutch can be at any time of the game really. I mean, if the shot clock is running down with 11 mins left in teh FIRST quarter, but you beat the buzzer w/ a shot, then I consider that clutch... so yeah. IDK. I felt like sharing that. (: | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:00 pm | |
| - CBI wrote:
- Clutch changes w/ differant ppl.
^^^Why CBI is one of the smartest users here^^^ You have to understand that there are all different kinds of clutch. | |
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cbi NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:03 pm | |
| NO IM JUS STO0PUD GRRILLA. | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:07 pm | |
| LOL, a very humble GRRILLA =P and BTW, I came back to win the Fantasy match up last night | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:38 pm | |
| too much work, whats the debate here again? | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:43 pm | |
| you said LeBron isn't clutch, and nobody agreed.
then, nearly none of anything you said showed that LeBron isn't clutch, and, to no surprise, nobody agreed still. | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:58 pm | |
| I wasn't trying to prove that Lebron isn't Clutch....helooooo
Failllllllll | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:10 am | |
| - KB24 wrote:
- And Lebron being clutch is a joke.
uhhhhh.... | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:13 am | |
| still, the stats i was providing wasn't for Lebron not being a clutch player.heloooooooo | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:19 am | |
| what was it for? what other argument did you make? | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:17 am | |
| It was Lebrons clutch numbers mostly coming from Driving. And him not really being a clutch shooter. | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:29 am | |
| and at what time did you provide evidence for that? did any of the stats YOU showed, show where he takes his clutch shots from? absolutely not
you certainly didn't go about arguing your point very well, and you changed it halfway through. | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:34 am | |
| I didn't wanna bother looking for something thats not important. What does it matter anyway?
can we all agree Kobe Clutch> Lebron any day | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:48 am | |
| its arguable both ways. like CBI said, clutch is so many different things. its also measured by an opinion mostly. can talk about numbers as much as you want, but clutch is what you see on the floor. kobe has a bigger body of clutch work, but LeBron is really clutch in just six years himself. hard to determine the clutchest NBA player | |
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:24 am | |
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cbi NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:42 am | |
| - Kid in the Green Backpack wrote:
- LOL, a very humble GRRILLA =P
and BTW, I came back to win the Fantasy match up last night WTF. Thats BS. | |
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:21 am | |
| - Kid in the Green Backpack wrote:
- and at what time did you provide evidence for that? did any of the stats YOU showed, show where he takes his clutch shots from? absolutely not
you certainly didn't go about arguing your point very well, and you changed it halfway through. I think all of us should know that just from being NBA fans, You don't need stats to verify what he said! | |
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Darko NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: Who is the best clutch shooter in the NBA's History? Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:24 pm | |
| - Lozan is amazing =]] wrote:
- Greg Oden-Get well!!!!!!! wrote:
- Lozan is amazing =]] wrote:
- Greg Oden-Get well!!!!!!! wrote:
- Lozan is amazing =]] wrote:
- Greg Oden-Get well!!!!!!! wrote:
- CBI wrote:
- That made no sense Darko. :/
It wasn't Kobe that lost them that series, lol. Hm.... i guess you are right
Btw,the only reason why i dislike Kobe in the first place is because of that attuitide that he has.Like he thinks he's the only that can hit clutch shots....... So..Im guessing you hate MJ too.... Lol,no
Mj mastered those shots,but he didn't always shot those jump shot.He could actually pass.Kobe is copy machine and doesn't know to pass... You said you disliked Kobe because: i dislike Kobe in the first place is because of that attuitide that he has.Like he thinks he's the only that can hit clutch shots
MJ did the same thing.... Yeah but Mj add that to his arsenal of moves first!.I don't like Kobe because he thinks that guys around him cannot make clutch shots
Darko...if you're gonna hate on Kobe....atleast try to make sense... Your credibility is going down by making no sense.... Kobe's ballhog.That's it,i hate him | |
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