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BNB NBA Superstar
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| Subject: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:01 am | |
| way too many threads about the Heat.
made this the Miami Heat Thread.
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Fox News NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:16 am | |
| damn..miami usually doesnt vlow leads that big...and that shot by bosh was a good one..they have to figure this out..fast. | |
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Nick C NBA Veteran
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:20 am | |
| I don't blame Coach Spo for anything.
Richardson was killing them. That's defense. Orlando swung the ball and usually they need at least two or more perimeter players clicking from three to win games. Today they got Arenas, Richardson and Anderson putting the pain on Miami with 3's.
Orlando bum rushed James and Wade and made the other Heat players come up with plays like Chalmers, Bosh and Bibby in crunch time shots.
I give all the credit to Orlando clamping down on defense.
As for the fans being unsatisfied... Miami should sign Snickers Bar.
It always satisfies.
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:24 am | |
| Ahhh...a 40-9 run by Orlando...just beautiful. | |
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John14 NBA Rookie
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:29 am | |
| Quit blaming it on the coach...
Coach spo wasnt the reason magic made 18-0 run was he.so? | |
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BNB NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:32 am | |
| - Nick C wrote:
- I don't blame Coach Spo for anything.
I don't know how many times this year I have seen miami mess up on an inbound play after a timeout. You have LBJ/Wade. You should always try to get the ball to one of them. If not, use them as a decoy or some shit since they demand a lot of attention so you can get the ball to the right guy. In tonight's case, it should have been mike miller since they needed a 3. but instead it almost didn't even look like Miami even had a right play or even knew what they were doing and the ball found Bosh... for the 3. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:38 am | |
| - Rest In Peace. wrote:
- Quit blaming it on the coach...
Coach spo wasnt the reason magic made 18-0 run was he.so? I'm always the first to say the players are the biggest reasons for why teams win, and the biggest reason for why teams lose.. but when a team blows a 24 point lead, the coach deserves to get blamed to a point. That's when a coach needs to make defensive/offensive adjustments, call timeouts at certain times, put in the right players at certain times, etc. And Spo failed to do that. | |
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Nick C NBA Veteran
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:42 am | |
| - Bulls N' Bears wrote:
- Nick C wrote:
- I don't blame Coach Spo for anything.
I don't know how many times this year I have seen miami mess up on an inbound play after a timeout. You have LBJ/Wade. You should always try to get the ball to one of them. If not, use them as a decoy or some shit since they demand a lot of attention so you can get the ball to the right guy. In tonight's case, it should have been mike miller since they needed a 3.
but instead it almost didn't even look like Miami even had a right play or even knew what they were doing and the ball found Bosh... for the 3.
But they did. Wade and LeBron got the ball. The other players didn't come through with tough shot when Wade and James were covered. The Magic really made them pass out to their shooters and they didn't hit. Bosh took a three and missed... then LeBron took a three and missed. Game over. The problem with the Heat is that they can go on huge runs. It can kill a team. Today.... Nelson, Richardson and Howard came up big offensively and defensively respectively. It was Orlando hitting 55.2% on 3's to Miami hitting 17.6% on 3's. That's perimeter defense failing and Orlando being hot outside. The Heat's perimeter game was shit. | |
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wallshingtonwizard NBA Rookie
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:46 am | |
| Well that's exactly why I don't think they'll win the NBA championship. | |
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SO6P [KING] NBA Rookie
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:48 am | |
| It was not the King's fault. He was the reason they were up BIG. They lost b'cause of horrible coaching. LeBron needs to man up and take CONTROL of that team like he did Cleveland. That means getting rid of Coach Spo cause the players don't respect him. | |
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Nick C NBA Veteran
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:28 am | |
| - King wrote:
- It was not the King's fault.
He was the reason they were up BIG. They lost b'cause of horrible coaching. LeBron needs to man up and take CONTROL of that team like he did Cleveland. That means getting rid of Coach Spo cause the players don't respect him. LMAO! LeBron taking CONTROL has had the same results as it did in Cleveland. Erik Spoelstra isn't the problem. Orlando played Miami defensively and Miami couldn't stop the perimeter shooting of the Magic. You can only blame the HEAT players defense for blowing a 24 point lead. Not the coaching. Wade missed two huge free throws too. The HEAT also gave a a 23 point lead versus the Magic last month before barley pulling out at the end. Howard had no blocks. Heat won 100 to 104. The HEAT won by 4 points that game. Today Howard hard 5 blocks. Technically speaking he stopped 10 points, if he only got 3 blocks... the HEAT possibly win this game by 1 point. So how does that victory and this loss make Erik Spoelstra a better coach one game and not the next game against the Magic? Seriously... have you looked at the boxscore? Ryan Anderson outplayed Bosh in 16 less minutes. Thats a major reason for the loss by itself. | |
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Darko NBA Superstar
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:48 am | |
| Miami's ability to fuck a big lead is killing them
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:21 am | |
| I turned the game off to watch Beyond Scared Straight when I seen the Heat was up by a large margin. I turn it back and see Dwight Howard taking free throws with Orlando in the lead. Must of been an exciting game. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:08 pm | |
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brownie13 NBA Legend
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:38 pm | |
| Just highlights 2 things that have been happening all season long:
-Miami's defense is too quick to collapse inside because opponents blow by their perimeter defenders with ease. If you can shoot the three ball and keep the floor balanced against them, their defense sucks because they overplay everything.
-Their half court offense doesn't get the job done. They went into it when they had the big lead and then could get nothing on offense because the only thing the Heat's offense is good at running ahead of the defense for a fast break or a quick mismatch. Pack the paint in a half court set and Wade and James look lost. | |
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Abdu NBA Rookie
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:03 pm | |
| WTF... I stopped watching te game at halftime and left to go to TKD class.... I come back home and see the boxscore and i'm like WTF!? | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:43 pm | |
| - Nick C wrote:
But they did.
Wade and LeBron got the ball. The other players didn't come through with tough shot when Wade and James were covered. The Magic really made them pass out to their shooters and they didn't hit.
Bosh took a three and missed... then LeBron took a three and missed.
Game over.
The problem with the Heat is that they can go on huge runs. It can kill a team. Today.... Nelson, Richardson and Howard came up big offensively and defensively respectively.
It was Orlando hitting 55.2% on 3's to Miami hitting 17.6% on 3's.
That's perimeter defense failing and Orlando being hot outside.
The Heat's perimeter game was shit.
I'm talking about the final inbound play when it was 99-96 with 8 seconds to go. Wade/LBJ never got the ball. It went straight to Bosh. But it was a terrible play from the start. Bosh/Bibby were lined up on the right side of that green line and Wade/LBJ were on the left. So the Magic knew the ball was going to the left. That's why Hedo is standing where he is in front of mike miller... he's giving him the pass to Bosh and blocking his view to the left. After the Game, Spo said that the play was designed to go to Wade... idk how he thought wade was gonna get the ball with that play. Also, why even have Bosh out there at all? He's made 56 3's in his career.. if there's one guy the Magic will leave open, it's Bosh. Miller, House, Wade and LBJ should have been out there... and if anything, Bosh should have been the one to inbound the ball because he's tall and would have an easier time seeing over the defender in front of him. yes, throughout the game, Orlando was just hitting a bunch of 3's and guys like Miller, Bibby, etc. were missing open shots... but I wasn't talking about that when it came to coaching. They could have ran a much better play after a timeout.. but they made it so easy to defend. That falls on the coach and that's what I was talking about. It even happened against Chicago.. at the end of the game when Miami needed a bucket, they came out of a timeout and ran a play for Bosh who was 1-17 at the time.. and he missed. Why in the world would you run a play for a guy who is 1-17? | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:53 pm | |
| Wide open 3 for bosh=good play. If bosh wouldnt have got such an open look wade would have went to the baseline while lebron was setting a screen there. and they could go to lebron in the post or wade and lebron clears. It's a good play but its only gonna work if someone steps up on bosh. or else the baseline is crowded. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:53 pm | |
| Bosh shooting a 3 is never a good play. When he makes it, it seems like a good play.. but if he was one my team and I saw him taking a 3 I would be like "WTF ARE YOU DOING?!?"
That's such a low percentage shot. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:25 pm | |
| wide open tho? when someones been playing basketball since like age 5..i trust them taking a wide open 3 especially since bosh shoots just inside the arc and he has a good stroke. I can see if this was like shaq or rondo taking 3's..there shot is god-awful,they know its god awful, and it always looks god-awful. Bosh on the other hand can really shoot a basketball..and he knows this. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:34 pm | |
| with the limited amount of 3's Bosh has shot in his career, his 3pt % is 29%
That is not a guy I want to shoot a game tying 3. I don't care how wide open he his.
There's a reason why he doesn't shoot many 3's. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:57 pm | |
| Because he's an athletic PF who'd be cutting himself short if he took 3's...if he took more his % would be more accurate. | |
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Nick C NBA Veteran
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:00 pm | |
| Yeah I don't think Bosh was the intended shooter.
I honestly just think Miller and Bosh fucked up that play. LeBron was all the way over on the other side of the court. Wade wasn't even well covered and Miller could have passed the ball to him.
Anyhoo...
Pass to Bosh... Chris takes a shot as soon as it entered his hands... if you watch the replay LeBron is open at the 3 point line as Bosh elevates and all Bosh had to do was pass it to him. Instead he took a 3 because he panicked and took the shot with too much time still on the clock.
If Bosh just used his brain a little bit there was a better shooter right next to him.
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:42 pm | |
| I dont really see the big deal with Bosh taking the shot
Its not like Wade and Lebron are sharpshooters by any means...in fact Lebron had the chance to tie it but he missed it too
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| Subject: Re: 2011 Miami Heat Thread Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:48 pm | |
| Yeah, Wade and LBJ aren't great 3 pt. shooters either... but they're better than Bosh.
Like nick said, I think Bosh panicked. 8 seconds is a lot of time to find a better shooter. He could have even let Mike miller run in bounds and pass it back to him for the 3... since he was the best 3pt. shooter out there at the time.
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