Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:58 pm
I guess I could concede that Rose is a top 5 talent at his position, though, as more of a scorer than a ball distributor. Looking at his statistics, their nearly identical to Billups', though Chauncey get more of his points from the perimeter, while Rose is more productive when attacking the basket. one thing I'd like to see from him is jumping in more passing lanes. for someone as big and athletic as he is, he should be averaging way more than .8 steals a game. I'd personally rather have Rondo at 5 and maybe Kidd ahead of him, but Rose has been amazing since his ankle healed all the way.
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:06 pm
Yeah,I agree.
I think that Billups should be ahead of Rose untill Rose has about 8 assists per game becouse of Billups Defense,he is better defender then Rose and better shooter too.Rose just needs to be better in passing and that's all.Maybe he should improve his shot and nothing more.He is great defender and he can have about 2,3 steals per game.
Rose 5th,Rondo 6th,Kidd 6th
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:47 pm
I wouldn't say Rose is a top 3 PG because he can't shoot the 3 and isn't the best defender out there. He is amazing in the paint. his mid range shot has improved a lot and you can see that he's a lot more comfortable taking them. He's taking 19 footers regularly.. he's fast as hell, he can jump and he can pass. He would average more APG if the guys he passed it to actually made the shot. When he passes it to Luol or Noah, they usually like to do something to create their own shot and Rose doesn't get credit for the assist. When he passes it to a wide open shooter and they miss the shot... that really isn;t Rose's fault. Last night guys were hitting shots from the outside and rose finished with 12 assists.
Williams can pretty much do everything.. so can paul.. so they're obviously above rose.. Nash gets # 3 for me and billups is at 4. I would give #5 to rose because Rondo is a bad offensive player. He can only drive... he even has trouble with free throws. [shooting under 60'5 from the line] he gets his assists because the guys he plays with actually hit their shots. The shots Rondo gets are also pretty easy... like layups and 10-15 footers... His rookie year he shot 41% from the field and once the big three got put together, Rondos shooting % went up to 49... and it wasnt because he improved a lot because he was still a shitty offensive player. He's just a better defender than rose.
Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:50 pm
Rose is not a Top 5 Point Guard. But he did nice yesterday, and Williams was straight beast. But............. KOBE with the GW!! hahaha
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:00 pm
Rose has been playing great for a while now.. when people go out, he plays even better. Since Noah has been out, he's averaging like 25 PPG.
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:04 pm
Yeah Abdi.He Rose is top 5 Point Guard.He is better than Jason Kidd,Rajon Rondo,Tyreke Evans,Steph Curry etc.
1.Deron Williams 2.Chris Paul 3.Steve Nash 4.Chauncey Billups 5.Derick Rose
HM-Rajon Rondo,Jason Kidd,Steph Curry,Devin Harris etc.
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:05 pm
i still think of tyreke as a SG... he reminds me of brandon roy
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:08 pm
Me too.But he often plays PG.If he plays in some other team where there is already good PG he'll play SG for sure.
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:21 pm
tyreke hasn't been playing PG lately.. udrih has.. and Evans is still doing good as a SG
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:31 pm
Tyreke Evans has to be the SG and leading scorer for the Kings
there's no scoring options on the team since trading Kevin Martin
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:13 pm
1. D-Will 2. Chris Paul 3. Steve Nash 4. Chauncey Billups 5. Derrick Rose/Russell Westbrook
i dont know how the hell you could put devin harris and steph curry as HM but not have westbrook mentioned anywhere!
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:15 pm
^^ i agree with that list
(But when healthy CP3 would be the best PG)
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:16 pm
yeah co......only reason i put cp3 2ns is cuz he was injured
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:19 pm
1. Chauncey Billups -or- Steve Nash (They're the present. They run things) 2. Deron Williams - Will be the best PG in the NBA for many years. 3. Tony Parker 4. Chris Paul
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Subject: Re: Deron Williams and Derrick Rose! Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:19 pm