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PostSubject: Time for Brandon Jennings to go to the bench?   Time for Brandon Jennings to go to the bench? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 22, 2010 9:20 pm

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He's getting worse and worse as the season progresses.

November: 22 PPG 42%
December:17 PPG 38%
January: 14 PPG 32%
February: 10 PPG 30%


Luke ridnour is shooting around 47% off the bench and is averaging 11 PPG

The bucks are close to the 8th seed and I think they should move Jennings to the bench

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PostSubject: Re: Time for Brandon Jennings to go to the bench?   Time for Brandon Jennings to go to the bench? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 22, 2010 11:11 pm

That one 55 point game overhyped him so much. I think he started thinking that if he can drop 55 in one game, he can probably drop 30 every given night...he probably should remember that he dropped 55 against the worst defensive team in the NBA.

Jennings = On the bench
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Wow, he is only a rookie; give him a chance.
I think people have too high expectations from him ever since he scored 55 points. Yes, his PPG has declined a bit (ouch) but for a rookie, he isn't doing too bad.
Jennings has potential....so I am with YS/CO that it won't hurt for him to still be a starter cause it is not like the Bucks are going places and it'll give him experience so that he can continue to improve.

When did he do that?!?!

LMAO...were you so traumatized by what he did to your Warriors that you repressed the memory? Razz

I still don't know what you guys are talking about, we've played the Bucks once and lost by like 6 points...but Brandon Ennings (cause he has no J, god I love saying this) only had like 20 points. 55 points? I think you guys are gettin confused with LeBron...Brandon Ennings NEVER came close to 55...
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PostSubject: Re: Time for Brandon Jennings to go to the bench?   Time for Brandon Jennings to go to the bench? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 22, 2010 11:12 pm

FOR THE LAST TIME.

BRANDON JENNINGS NEVER SCORED 55 POINTS.
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That one 55 point game overhyped him so much. I think he started thinking that if he can drop 55 in one game, he can probably drop 30 every given night...he probably should remember that he dropped 55 against the worst defensive team in the NBA.

Jennings = On the bench


yes i agree exactly
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I think you guys are gettin confused with LeBron

Lebron dropped 55 on you guys too?

Damn, yall suck
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Raza wrote:
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I think you guys are gettin confused with LeBron

Lebron dropped 55 on you guys too?

Damn, yall suck

Patrick Ewing Jr. could probably drop 55 fucking points on us...but not Brandon Ennings.
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The Gross Liar wrote:
Raza wrote:
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I think you guys are gettin confused with LeBron

Lebron dropped 55 on you guys too?

Damn, yall suck

Patrick Ewing Jr. could probably drop 55 fucking points on us...but not Brandon Ennings.

*sigh*

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/gamecenter/recap/NBA_20091114_GS@MIL/bucks-rookie-jennings-explodes-for-55-points-in-win/rss

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/70123932.html

http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/brandon-jennings-scores-55-points/9DqfCsHtkci4umLOFmmCGg
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take away that crazy good month he had and he would be averaging like 12 PPG shooting 34%

thats HORRIBLE. If the bucks are trying to get to the playoffs, which im sure they are... then they should let Ridnour start the next 20 games or so... Then maybe they'll make the playoffs and Jennings could get some playoff experience.


and jaleesa, you said "he's only a rookie, give him a chance"

50+ games starting isn't giving him a chance?

When it comes to player development, it doesn't only 50 games to do so...
Some NBA stars are born early and some take time to develop...Jennings may happen to be one of those guys.
and let's be real here, Bucks have no chance if they make the playoffs...so yeah, it won't hurt to have him start and get the practical experience of being a starter...

benching a guy for 20 games or so isn't going to hurt his development... if anything, he's going to realize that he's playing like shit and he needs to step it up.. etting him keep the job while playing like crap for 3 months isn't helping any... obviously
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I think the guy has potential, but he really is playing like shit right now and should be properly dealt with so that he can learn to play more consistent. Maybe getting benched will put him in a nice little groove that he can build upon for next season. And about the 55 point game so what? Tony Delk scored 50 points in an NBA game before and Steve Nash hasn't as of right now. Does that mean Tony Delk is better than Steve Nash? No, no it doesn't the same thing applies with Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings. Reke' has shown all season much like Nash has shown all his career that he is 1 of the greatest PG talents ever and in Reke's case a much better player than Jennings.
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pretty much every single top 10 pick has potential... but potential doesn't do shit for you.

Jennings has shown that he CAN play.. then the question was, can he respond to even more defensive pressure? obviously he hasn't been able to do that. Being a rookie shouldn't be a good excuse for struggling so much. When Martin went down for the kings, Evans saw more defensive pressure and still continued to play great. Ellis went down for a few games and Curry still played great, even better in fact. Last year Mayo and rose saw a lot from defenses but they still stayed pretty consistent..

we'll see next year.. but as of now, it doesn't look like Jennings is going to be a GREAT player
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Jennings has trouble playing vs better defensive teams.I think he will work that out
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Jennings will continue to be a starter till the season ends, this off season he should work on his game more.
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Jennings has trouble playing vs better defensive teams.I think he will work that out

That has nothing to do with it. The Knicks are far from being an elite defensive team and last night Brandon Jennings was 1-9 from the field, he did have 7 assists but that is misleading cause the way Bogut played last night he should have damn near had 7 assists or more. The only thing last night I give credit to BJ is his 8 rebounds.

Anyways, he also makes a lot of bad decisions. Sergio Rodriguez plays the passing lanes tremendously and at the PG position has a lot of height and is speedy as heck, but he gambles way too much playing the passing lanes so it seems and he gets burned from it. He isn't that great of a defender though he tries and he picked apart BJ and forced him into unneeded turnovers.
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the bucks better hope he works on his game.

Scoring only 4 points against one of the worst defensive teams in the knicks? Ouch. [no offense tony haha]


EDIT: NVM tony, you brought it up too hahaha
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Yep and the 7 assists mean jack cause you'd better hope your starting PG would have that many assists or more the way Andrew Bogut played. I think Bogut is the franchise player the team should be built around him and Jennings must work on his game more to be a solid 2nd fiddle to Bogut. Ersan Ilyasova has shown he can ball too and Salmons is playing well for them so far.
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I agree. Bogut is clearly the Bucks best player right now. 16 PPG 50% 10 RPG 2 BPG... those are nearly all-star numbers. If Redd was 100% he would have been their 2nd best player cuz he's still able to put up 20-22 a night when he's healthy.

Jennings has to stop trying to be this big time scorer and start becoming more of a PG
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Yep he's no Baron Davis. And Baron Davis has always had a handle on that although at times he could get out of control. The fact that he knows how to balance his scoring, which is big-time scoring capable and follow up on his PG duties as well just makes him balanced. BJ needs to get like that, but I just don't see him as a big time scorer he should focus more on being a PG and then I think he can live up to the potential he has.
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There's also a noticable size difference between Jennings ans Davis.

Davis: 6'3 215
Jennings: 6'1 169

I think they might have even given Jennings that extra inch.

If Jennings cut down on his stupid shots and passed the ball around a bit more... he could be a 15 PPG 9 APG kinda guy.. which isn't bad
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15/9 isn't bad at all....
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take away that crazy good month he had and he would be averaging like 12 PPG shooting 34%

thats HORRIBLE. If the bucks are trying to get to the playoffs, which im sure they are... then they should let Ridnour start the next 20 games or so... Then maybe they'll make the playoffs and Jennings could get some playoff experience.


and jaleesa, you said "he's only a rookie, give him a chance"

50+ games starting isn't giving him a chance?

When it comes to player development, it doesn't only 50 games to do so...
Some NBA stars are born early and some take time to develop...Jennings may happen to be one of those guys.
and let's be real here, Bucks have no chance if they make the playoffs...so yeah, it won't hurt to have him start and get the practical experience of being a starter...

benching a guy for 20 games or so isn't going to hurt his development... if anything, he's going to realize that he's playing like shit and he needs to step it up.. etting him keep the job while playing like crap for 3 months isn't helping any... obviously

I think by actually getting sufficient minutes; it would enable him to better develop. You also need a mentor to guide you (e.g. coach/veteran player) and let you know how to improve your game as you are getting that practical experience. Maybe the coach could do a better job with aiding Jennings with regards to his development. Jennings also needs guidance so that practical experience he is obtaining from starter minutes is beneficial to his development.
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He's hit the rookie wall.
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He's hit the rookie wall.

he's been walking around dazed and confused since he hit that wall

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I also agree with Jaleesa. He may be playing like shit, but there is no reason to bench him. If you want him to be the leader of your team for years to come, the best thing to do is let him play through it. The Bucks aren't losing ground in the playoff race, and in fact, have just tied Charlotte for the 8th seed. So as bad as he's playing, the team is still doing BETTER than it was when Redd was healthy and they fell out of the playoffs to the 9th seed. It's not as if Ridnour really gives them anything different by starting him if they still give Jennings the same minutes. All it does is crush Jennings confidence. The team is OVER .500 with him as the team's main perimeter option. He is shooting the ball terribly, and there is no denying that, but have you noticed how his ast/to ratio has risen significantly? I wonder why not. Because its gone up from about 1.8 to almost 3 the last couple months. His ball control and passing have been wonderful since Redd got himself re-injured. It's not as if he hasn't realized how terribly he's shooting. His shots per game has steadily decreased as well during his shooting slump. While his shooting may have hit the rookie wall, his overall game hasn't. He's passing better, taking care of the ball, playing better defense, and doing a solid job leading the team to victory. They should leave him as the starter, because the only thing Ridnour has on him is more consistent shooting. Jennings offer so much more, both by jumping passing lanes and drawing the defense's attention. Ridnour won't be able to do that. There's a reason he's been shooting such a good percentage, and it's because he is able to get open looks because the defense doesn't focus on him. Jennings' is getting the job done. That's all that matters. It's a shooting slump, and a big one, but his overall game is continuing to perform, and they have as much shot making the playoffs with him as the starter they do Ridnour.
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