Time for Brandon Jennings to go to the bench?

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He's getting worse and worse as the season progresses.

November: 22 PPG 42%
December:17 PPG 38%
January: 14 PPG 32%
February: 10 PPG 30%


Luke ridnour is shooting around 47% off the bench and is averaging 11 PPG

The bucks are close to the 8th seed and I think they should move Jennings to the bench

thoughts?

so you're saying he shot well when the team needed him to?

he shot well against the Jazz early on.. it's not like he was making clutch shots at the end. Same with the Cavs.

but if it wasn't for those points he had early on, the bucks would have been playing catch up and would have probably lost 2 of those games.

so in games where his team needed him to shoot the ball better, he did. that's great. considering that in no game did his poor shooting really cost the team the game. they went overtime against the hawks on the road, and he didn't get to play in overtime. they got blown out by houston and orlando (which means nobody played well), and even bogut shot under 50% against detroit in their loss. so he didn't shoot them out of any games, and he did shoot them into some games, but he should be benched? no.

uhm... his poor shooting cost the bucks a lot of games.
even early on when he wasn't in a shooting slump.

NO 102- MIL 99. Jennings is 4-15
Was 104- MIL 102. Jennings shot 7-21
LAL 107- MIL 106. Jennings shot 4-11
ORL 100- MIL 98. Jennings shot 7-22
CLE 85- MIL 82. Jennings shot 5-21

there's more.. ^ those are just examples. Don't you think that if Jennings played better.. the bucks would have won? Those are some good ass team that they almost beat despite Jennings shooting poorly. What does that say about the bucks? They really aren't that bad and could have won those games if they had consistent play from their PG.Instead of shooting 21 shots against CLE when he was clearly off.. he should have passed it more... but he didn't because he felt that he could hit 55 again.. His poor decision making in taking those shots cost them those games.

if a team gets blown the fuck out... then no one played well obviously.

its funny how the game is close in those situations, when he is the main ball distibutor and was playing soooooo horribly. you do notice that the league's three top teams are in that set of games right? why is a team like Milwaukee, which was predicted to be garbage this season, anywhere near them in those games? it must have been bogut's beasting

lal game, bogut 6-16-why give it to bogut if he's shooting the same percentage?

cle game, bogut 2-7...yea

and the magic game, bogut wasn't even on the floor with the team and they hung in there

but yeah, let's bench jennings because he lost to the best team's in the league without much help from bogut.

Again.....Jennings is their best young player

The Bucks want to develop him, developing him will be slowed down if he went on the bench

Who said the bucks were gonna be garbage? Some people predicted them to go to the playoffs.. like a couple of people on NBATV and someone who doesn't want to be known on ESPN. Majority of the people had the bucks winning 30-35 games and it looks like the Bucks are gonna win around 41-42... so it's not like everyone was too far off.


saying Jennings is the best player on the bucks though is false. If he plays like shit and the team is still in it... then obviously some of the guys he's playing with are playing better than him.

CLE game.. bogut went 2-7.. yeah. he also played 17 minutes cuz of foul trouble. If he played about 30 minutes... he would have been more effictive and the bucks could have won... they still could have won despite Bogut not playing much if Jennings didn't shoot 21 times.

and that part wasn't even about bogut.. you said "considering that in no game did his poor shooting really cost the team the game." So I showed you close games that Jennings shot poorly. if he played better.. they could have won right? I mean they lost to the cavs by 3 and Jennings shot 5-21. If Jennings was 10-21, don't you think they would have won?

was it just him though? no. the whole idea of benching jennings is just dumb. it didn't make sense before the bucks' tear and it doesn't now.

kid was the only thing keeping the bucks going early this season and he's the starting point guard for the 2nd hottest NBA team now. they're 17-4 in their last 21 games. benching the player is at the head of it (he's at the head, he's the point guard) makes no sense.

since i know u aren't arguing that he played poorly in the kings game, we can continue here.

considering that in no game did his poor shooting really cost the team the game.

My last couple of posts were about that... you didn't even answer the question where I asked "I jennings shot 10-21, do you think they would have won?"


I made this thread when the bucks first started their hot streak.. Jennings was playing like shit... The only argument to not bench him was the teams success... what would have the argument been before the streak? confidence? well yeah that actually makes sense... his confidence got really low while he was starting... who knows what would have happened if he got benched.... he would have went Vince young on everyone

did he? no. because as i said, he wasnt the only one who played/shot poorly. they did so as a team, so accordingly, if he's the distributor and nobody is scoring or getting open, someone's got to shoot when the shot clock starts ticking low.

yeah, we weren't talking about his teammates at that point... you said HIS poor shooting DIDNT cost his team the game... so if HE shot better in close games, they would have won right?

I showed you games in which they lost by 5 or less points when Jennings shot poorly.... THEN you brought the teammates [bogut] into it

if any of his teammates shot better they would have won too, so lets bench em all

this is what I'm wondering..

Jennings was playing horrible when the bucks weren't winning.. and he way playing horrible when they got on the hot streak..

so you say Jenning's teammates should have played better when they weren't winning, but when they started winning Jennings was the one leading the team, playing "great" D blah blah blah..

doesn't make sense

he had nobody to pass to cuz they weren't getting open. their offense was stagnant.

when they added stackhouse (veteran wing) it clearly rejuvenated their offense and everyone was starting to play better, especially the wings who started to get open. then they made the acquistion of salmons. now that he has more options to score, hes seeing less defense, and clearly (shown over the last 6 games or so) hes scoring more and shooting better.

yeah.. they added 2 pieces [stackhouse/Salmons] they start winning and the credit goes to Jennings?

he has been averaging the same amount of assits all year long.. it's not like he was averaging 3 APG and when they got salmons/stack he went up to 8 APG. he has been around 5/6 all year long.

Salmons has been there for 15 games and they are 13-2 since he got there.
Jennings has had 5 good games in a row..after playing like crap for like 3 months... and now he gets most of the credit..

no not to jennings. but u said bench him. he just finally got somebody to play with. but like u wanted to do...bench him when he had nothing becuase he was shooting poorly.

u don't bench a guy who had just a bunch of teammates that were lost in Skiles' offense.

he's done a solid job, and benching him made no sense. ridnour not the solution, he's as inconsistent as jennings.

yeah, when I made the thread I thought he should have been benched. That was a good month ago... Jennings started playing well about a week ago.

Jennings was shooting poorly, while not getting his teammates involved and played average D..

haha @ being as inconsistent as Jennings. Ridnour has been solid off the bench this year... if he played the same way when starting, the bucks could have won a few more close games. The only thing that's REALLY inconsistent with Ridnour is the amount of minutes he plays.

look it up.

look what up? him being inconsistent?

Ridnour shot 52% in nov.
53% in december
44% in jan
42% in feb
44% so far this month

If you mean inconsistent as in.. going from 50+ % to around 43% then I agree. but 44% is much better than 33-36% which is what Jennings shot.

and 44% isn't even really that bad for a guard

game to game

game to game Jennings played like shit for 3 months

saying Ridnour has a bad game here and there doesn't make jennings look any better

again.. you're bringing in other players to cover up what jennings has or hasnt done

jennings > ridnour

no bench

this should have ended once you said it was the teammates that should have played better when they were struggling and how jennings was a BIG part of the bucks success when they were winning, even though he was playing the same...

that just doesnt make any sense. The teammates did their job and thats why they did start winning.. that along with a friendly schedule and some key additions. If jennings never went through a 3 month slump, the bucks could have about 44 wins now. so it IS his poor shooting that brought down the bucks for a while

1.Bogut
2.salmons
3.jennings

^ order of the players making the biggest difference for the bucks recent success.

I don't think it's Jennings fault when he was growing into better players and his team wasn't good and now vice versa but hey what do i know in this conversation...i never watched them in a full game