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PostSubject: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 7:17 pm

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I'm sorry for bringing another raptors thread to surface, but what do we do next?

Chris Bosh had the ball 3/4 of the time last season, the leader, and before him Vince Carter, but since after our second leader has left, what do we expect out of the team now? I mean I can understand that with Bosh leaving, the only upside to look for is the youth development.. AGAIN. I would dislike to rebuild all over. But Colangelo says it as : "Re-Tooling" I like how he is having the competitive edge while he is in rebuilding mode at the same time, why doesn't he restart? I mean look, Bosh left, we have 3 young good players that likes Toronto in Amir, DeRozan, Weems, developing better and better. We have a solid young core, and we could possible build a team like Thunder depending on how it goes, would it be best to rebuild? Or trade some key players for one star. Because I honestly don't think Raptors fans can't take another rebuild. After a full decade..


So, should we just call it quits, and get lottery picks and fail some seasons?

What's next? We can tell that DeMar can develop into a franchise player in Toronto after a few years... but time will tell whats next?
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:23 am

I'm not saying he is now..... he can become something very special./... in a few seasons
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:25 am

Like a solid role player.
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why not a star? Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:26 am

Because he can't do anything besides dunk and drive...
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:27 am

he could practice and become WAY better.....
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:27 am

^^^
Some people can get away with it...like Lebron, John Wall (in college) and even Derrick Rose to an extent (although Rose's mid-range jumpshot is pretty good)

But DeMar DeRozan...no.
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A lot of people could practice and become WAY better.
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:28 am

DeRozan just seems focused and dialed in this season, he's really working hard. He could maybe become something better in a few seasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:29 am

...but not the face of a franchise.
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:31 am

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DeRozan just seems focused and dialed in this season, he's really working hard. He could maybe become something better in a few seasons.

I don't see DeRozan ever putting up more than 15 PPG during his career, while spending most of it on the bench (once he ditches Toronto)
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 2:36 am

haha...reading over this...Raza, we're such douches. But we're proud douches. Razz
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haha...reading over this...Raza, we're such douches. But we're proud douches. Razz

Lmfao I know. Oh well, it's only the Raptors...
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And my heart :'(
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 1:37 pm

The best hope for the Raptors is to employ the Ted Leonsis strategy that is being used for the Wizards (And the other two teams he owns):

1. Build through the draft with a young core. This is the cheapest way to get great players who become franchise cornerstones. (Every lotto team does this)
2. Make trades with other teams to grab additional draft picks or additional young players (Minnesota in 2009; Sonics and Thunder in 2007 through now; Wizards in 2010).
3. Use free agency as a way to add a supplemental piece to the pie (Pistons in 2003; Washington Mystics in 2010). NOT as the primary way to build a team (Cavs at the trade deadline in 2007; Celtics in 2007; Heat in 2010).

The Raptors should employ this strategy and in depending on how lucky they get in the draft lottery, they should be able to draft some great players over the next couple years, perhaps trade Calderon or whoever else they have to other teams where they grab more young prospects with potential, and the Raps this way can be a perennial power.
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 24, 2010 1:45 pm

Re-building a team through the draft lottery takes time. If players face poor season after poor season after poor season with the strategy, "Oh, well we'll get lucky in the draft once and get some good players!", they will want to leave Toronto like Bosh
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 9:04 am

That's true to a degree. Drafting does require some luck. It also requires a good coaching staff that can develop those picks and get them playing together with the team. Seeing Toronto become like another Atlanta would be ideal, though the Hawks picked up Joe Johnson through free agency.
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 9:26 am

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he could practice and become WAY better.....
No shit??!!!??! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 11:09 am

1. Get rid of Jose for some good young players....or cheap contracts
2. Try to get into the lottery next season.....
3. As of right now.....try to get Bargnani to be the franchise player
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1. Get rid of Jose for some good young players....or cheap contracts
2. Try to get into the lottery next season.....
3. As of right now.....try to get Bargnani to be the franchise player

Essentially, the Ted Leonsis strategy, minus Bargs
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 6:05 pm

Seattle
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PostSubject: Re: Toronto Raptors, what next?   Toronto Raptors, what next? - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 7:00 pm

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Move to Seattle?

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Seattle

Suspect

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CAguyofftoUNC wrote:
Move to Seattle?

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Seattle

Suspect

Copycat!

Play in a well inhabited city in the state of Washington that would appreciate having a basketball team... whatever city that may be.
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CAguyofftoUNC wrote:
CAguyofftoUNC wrote:
Move to Seattle?

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Seattle

Suspect

Copycat!

Play in a well inhabited city in the state of Washington that would appreciate having a basketball team... whatever city that may be.

lol!
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No.. stay in TO.
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