Derrick Rose vs Rajon Rondo

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They both play different roles in their teams, and their own individual style is better than the other. But who do you think is better?

I pick Rose.

-Lead his team two playoff appearances without any other all-star, while RR9 couldn't make the playoffs without 3 alleged Hall of Fame players.

-Already an all-star and Top 5 Point Guard in the NBA.

-DR1 is better than RR9 in every offensive statistic, while RR9 is better than DR1 in every defensive statistic. The upside for Rose here is that he's pressured to be the #1. offense, because if he's not, they loose, while Rondo could score 0 points, 11 assists, and 6 rebounds resulting in his team winning. What I'm trying to get here is that Derrick Rose does more with less.

Derrick Rose wrote:

Rose already out of College was the Bulls #1. offensive option!

Ben Gordon.

Raza wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Rose already out of College was the Bulls #1. offensive option!

Ben Gordon.

Thank you Raza... I've only said this four or five times already.

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

It seems you can't separate the offense with the shot. Rondo does have Offensive game and a lot of signature moves if you wanna know.

"Kobe Bryant is the best perimeter player in the NBA, comparing him to a Center and Point Guard, is like myself comparing Rajon Rondo to Dwight Howard and Joe Johnson." I don't get that part. I pass.

Lol Rose will end up as a good SG or at best a pure PG.

Rose can't defend anything that moves with more than 1km/hour.
Rose doesn't have court vision. You have Boozer or no, you ain't getting assist's.
His offensive game is good but still many people back off of him which leads to good mid-range PCT.
He can't get to line.
I can go on for as much as you want.

Rondo has been one of the best players in the last two NBA Play-Offs. That's enough to get you over(at least)Rose.

Rondo's offense comes from The Big 3 creating open lanes for him, outside of that his offense is vacant. Rondo's signature move is a rip-off of The Dream Shake which was originally used for Power Forwards/Center type of players.

That's your prediction, not fact.

You're only hanging on Rose's inabilities, but what about his abilities?
-Arguably the fastest player in the NBA.
-Best crossover in the NBA.
etc.

Rajon Rondo has been the best player in the last two playoffs against the same team "Cleveland Cavaliers". Who was defending Rondo mainly? Mo Williams. What happened when Kobe Bryant (Great one-on-one defender) guarded him? 25% from the FT line was it?

As i said before. Rondo lacks one thing, Rose lacks a hella lot things. Tell me one thing Rose can do except shoot that Rondo can't.

I can tell you as many as you want that Rondo can and Rose can't.

Rose is fast? Rondo is as fast.
Rose has good ball-handling? Rondo has same if not better.
Rose can drive? Rondo can too. fake, up n under, dream, isomo etc.

The only think Derrick Rose lacks is a superstar-talented player, and he now has that in Carlos Boozer. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant in my opinion are the future of the league, and they'll prove it this upcoming season.

I think Rajon Rondo is a good player though, I'm not dissing him, just saying when he does something they overrate him to the MAX.

LOL, so if this super-talented player arrives he will automatically be a great defender and be able to dish? Smoking weed while arguing is not fun bro..

What overration? When the guy is playing out of his mind? When the guy finishes a critical game with 30pts and 20rbs and sets new record? You underrate Rondo if you think Rose is better, who hasn't even done anything near what Rondo has done.

1 question, who was defending Rondo while he was having this career playoff night? Mo Williams?

Enough said.

Rose is better offensively, Rondo is better defensively.

Pick your poison.

Raza wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Rose already out of College was the Bulls #1. offensive option!

Ben Gordon.

Where is Ben Gordon's overrated self now? He's only good OFF the bench.

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

It seems you can't separate the offense with the shot. Rondo does have Offensive game and a lot of signature moves if you wanna know.

"Kobe Bryant is the best perimeter player in the NBA, comparing him to a Center and Point Guard, is like myself comparing Rajon Rondo to Dwight Howard and Joe Johnson." I don't get that part. I pass.

Lol Rose will end up as a good SG or at best a pure PG.

Rose can't defend anything that moves with more than 1km/hour.
Rose doesn't have court vision. You have Boozer or no, you ain't getting assist's.
His offensive game is good but still many people back off of him which leads to good mid-range PCT.
He can't get to line.
I can go on for as much as you want.

Rondo has been one of the best players in the last two NBA Play-Offs. That's enough to get you over(at least)Rose.

Rondo's offense comes from The Big 3 creating open lanes for him, outside of that his offense is vacant. Rondo's signature move is a rip-off of The Dream Shake which was originally used for Power Forwards/Center type of players.

That's your prediction, not fact.

You're only hanging on Rose's inabilities, but what about his abilities?
-Arguably the fastest player in the NBA.
-Best crossover in the NBA.
etc.

Rajon Rondo has been the best player in the last two playoffs against the same team "Cleveland Cavaliers". Who was defending Rondo mainly? Mo Williams. What happened when Kobe Bryant (Great one-on-one defender) guarded him? 25% from the FT line was it?

As i said before. Rondo lacks one thing, Rose lacks a hella lot things. Tell me one thing Rose can do except shoot that Rondo can't.

I can tell you as many as you want that Rondo can and Rose can't.

Rose is fast? Rondo is as fast.
Rose has good ball-handling? Rondo has same if not better.
Rose can drive? Rondo can too. fake, up n under, dream, isomo etc.

The only think Derrick Rose lacks is a superstar-talented player, and he now has that in Carlos Boozer. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant in my opinion are the future of the league, and they'll prove it this upcoming season.

I think Rajon Rondo is a good player though, I'm not dissing him, just saying when he does something they overrate him to the MAX.

LOL, so if this super-talented player arrives he will automatically be a great defender and be able to dish? Smoking weed while arguing is not fun bro..

What overration? When the guy is playing out of his mind? When the guy finishes a critical game with 30pts and 20rbs and sets new record? You underrate Rondo if you think Rose is better, who hasn't even done anything near what Rondo has done.

1 question, who was defending Rondo while he was having this career playoff night? Mo Williams?

Enough said.

Rose is better offensively, Rondo is better defensively.

Pick your poison.

It was game 4. Game 2 in his 1st triple-double he was guarded by Mo.

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

It seems you can't separate the offense with the shot. Rondo does have Offensive game and a lot of signature moves if you wanna know.

"Kobe Bryant is the best perimeter player in the NBA, comparing him to a Center and Point Guard, is like myself comparing Rajon Rondo to Dwight Howard and Joe Johnson." I don't get that part. I pass.

Lol Rose will end up as a good SG or at best a pure PG.

Rose can't defend anything that moves with more than 1km/hour.
Rose doesn't have court vision. You have Boozer or no, you ain't getting assist's.
His offensive game is good but still many people back off of him which leads to good mid-range PCT.
He can't get to line.
I can go on for as much as you want.

Rondo has been one of the best players in the last two NBA Play-Offs. That's enough to get you over(at least)Rose.

Rondo's offense comes from The Big 3 creating open lanes for him, outside of that his offense is vacant. Rondo's signature move is a rip-off of The Dream Shake which was originally used for Power Forwards/Center type of players.

That's your prediction, not fact.

You're only hanging on Rose's inabilities, but what about his abilities?
-Arguably the fastest player in the NBA.
-Best crossover in the NBA.
etc.

Rajon Rondo has been the best player in the last two playoffs against the same team "Cleveland Cavaliers". Who was defending Rondo mainly? Mo Williams. What happened when Kobe Bryant (Great one-on-one defender) guarded him? 25% from the FT line was it?

As i said before. Rondo lacks one thing, Rose lacks a hella lot things. Tell me one thing Rose can do except shoot that Rondo can't.

I can tell you as many as you want that Rondo can and Rose can't.

Rose is fast? Rondo is as fast.
Rose has good ball-handling? Rondo has same if not better.
Rose can drive? Rondo can too. fake, up n under, dream, isomo etc.

The only think Derrick Rose lacks is a superstar-talented player, and he now has that in Carlos Boozer. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant in my opinion are the future of the league, and they'll prove it this upcoming season.

I think Rajon Rondo is a good player though, I'm not dissing him, just saying when he does something they overrate him to the MAX.

LOL, so if this super-talented player arrives he will automatically be a great defender and be able to dish? Smoking weed while arguing is not fun bro..

What overration? When the guy is playing out of his mind? When the guy finishes a critical game with 30pts and 20rbs and sets new record? You underrate Rondo if you think Rose is better, who hasn't even done anything near what Rondo has done.

1 question, who was defending Rondo while he was having this career playoff night? Mo Williams?

Enough said.

Rose is better offensively, Rondo is better defensively.

Pick your poison.

It was game 4. Game 2 in his 1st triple-double he was guarded by Mo.

Why does Rondo have great games against the CAVS, but never against anyone else? Enough said, CAVS were overrated.

Derrick Rose wrote:

Why does Rondo have great games against the CAVS, but never against anyone else? Enough said, CAVS were overrated.

That just proved you don't know shit.

Case closed.

Nick C wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Why does Rondo have great games against the CAVS, but never against anyone else? Enough said, CAVS were overrated.

That just proved you don't know shit.

That was rude. It's a simple statement. Rajon Rondo has never had superb games against any other team except the Cleveland Cavaliers.


IRRELEVANT TO THIS TOPIC: What's your Yahoo Basketball name?

What about AVERAGE TRIPLE DOUBLE IN A WHOLE SERIES AGAINST YOUR BOY ROSE?

Chris wrote:

What about AVERAGE TRIPLE DOUBLE IN A WHOLE SERIES AGAINST YOUR BOY ROSE?

Let's see. Derrick Rose was defending Rondo, yet who was defending Paul Pierce and Ray Allen? Nobody. I think we can become friends, but we will ALWAYS bump heads on this topic.

Derrick Rose wrote:

Nick C wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Why does Rondo have great games against the CAVS, but never against anyone else? Enough said, CAVS were overrated.

That just proved you don't know shit.

That was rude. It's a simple statement. Rajon Rondo has never had superb games against any other team except the Cleveland Cavaliers.


IRRELEVANT TO THIS TOPIC: What's your Yahoo Basketball name?

The same as my RBT name.

And no... you really proved you know shit about Rondo with that statement.

No it's all good. We all know that Rondo is better and this season he will prove it even more so none will ever again have Rose in the same sentence with Rondo.

Nick C wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Nick C wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Why does Rondo have great games against the CAVS, but never against anyone else? Enough said, CAVS were overrated.

That just proved you don't know shit.

That was rude. It's a simple statement. Rajon Rondo has never had superb games against any other team except the Cleveland Cavaliers.


IRRELEVANT TO THIS TOPIC: What's your Yahoo Basketball name?

The same as my RBT name.

And no... you really proved you know shit about Rondo with that statement.

Okay, add me, mines is Derrick Rose.

Rajon Rondo can play, but he only plays the way people overrate him with certain teams. Get what I'm saying brother?

Chris wrote:

No it's all good. We all know that Rondo is better and this season he will prove it even more so none will ever again have Rose in the same sentence with Rondo.

No, it's the other way around bro. This season Derrick Rose will prove he's better than Rondo, and secure the 4th best spot. Derrick Rose will only get better! Just like Rondo will! Great competition if you ask me!



WHAT IS YOUR YAHOO USERNAME?

I'll add you.

But this part:

Quote :

Rajon Rondo can play, but he only plays the way people overrate him with certain teams. Get what I'm saying brother?

Complete BS.

I just hope you have more to contribute to RBT than blind Derrick Rose praising.

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

No it's all good. We all know that Rondo is better and this season he will prove it even more so none will ever again have Rose in the same sentence with Rondo.

No, it's the other way around bro. This season Derrick Rose will prove he's better than Rondo, and secure the 4th best spot. Derrick Rose will only get better! Just like Rondo will! Great competition if you ask me!



WHAT IS YOUR YAHOO USERNAME?

Just quit bro, you can't persuade anyone with your argument. Only sure thing is that the Bulls-Celtics games will be fun to watch just because if these two guys.

Nick C wrote:

I'll add you.

But this part:

Quote :

Rajon Rondo can play, but he only plays the way people overrate him with certain teams. Get what I'm saying brother?

Complete BS.

Man, too many Rondo fans in here...

Just like I said in my statement, Rondo only plays great against certain teams (Cleveland Cavaliers, Chicago Bulls).

Derrick Rose needs to improve his defense, which can be done.
Rajon Rondo needs to improve his offense, which can be done.

This will be a great rivalry!

I hope My Bulls and your Celts meet in the playoffs!

Chris wrote:

Derrick Rose wrote:

Chris wrote:

No it's all good. We all know that Rondo is better and this season he will prove it even more so none will ever again have Rose in the same sentence with Rondo.

No, it's the other way around bro. This season Derrick Rose will prove he's better than Rondo, and secure the 4th best spot. Derrick Rose will only get better! Just like Rondo will! Great competition if you ask me!



WHAT IS YOUR YAHOO USERNAME?

Just quit bro, you can't persuade anyone with your argument. Only sure thing is that the Bulls-Celtics games will be fun to watch just because if these two guys.

I now realize that this will have to wait until Rose/Rondo meet in the RS and PS. We will see who is better, alright?

Hope we become friends!

LMAO @ And your CELTICS!@!@!!@LADMASDOAS

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Chris wrote:

LMAO @ And your CELTICS!@!@!!@LADMASDOAS

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LMAO.

He's a Laker.

















Still laughing?

Forget bout Rondo n Rose.
Its all bout Westbrook.
He can defend,rebound,developed a good free throw line jumpshot,is a good driver,crazy athletic,knows his weaknesses,great passer(he has no big men to pass it to. the thunder big men have hands made of stone)



WESTBROOOOOK...


Yeah..

KD35 wrote:

Forget bout Rondo n Rose.
Its all bout Westbrook.
He can defend,rebound,developed a good free throw line jumpshot,is a good driver,crazy athletic,knows his weaknesses,great passer(he has no big men to pass it to. the thunder big men have hands made of stone)



WESTBROOOOOK...


Yeah..

I LOVE WESTBROOK!

Chris wrote:

He's a Laker.

















Still laughing?

That's cool. I hope he's a true Laker fan like me and you are true Chicago and Boston fans!

Do you think Joe Johnson is overrated/overpaid now?

Nick C wrote:

KD35 wrote:

Forget bout Rondo n Rose.
Its all bout Westbrook.
He can defend,rebound,developed a good free throw line jumpshot,is a good driver,crazy athletic,knows his weaknesses,great passer(he has no big men to pass it to. the thunder big men have hands made of stone)



WESTBROOOOOK...


Yeah..

I LOVE WESTBROOK!

Westbrook = SHUT DOWN by Kobe...