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PostSubject: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 6:46 pm

PG?
SG?
SF?
PF?
C?
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PG - Rondo
SG - Wade
SF - Lebron
Pf - ummm Gasol?
C - David Lee?

imo.. confused

List yours.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 6:48 pm

PG-D-Will
SG-Kobe
SF-LeBron
PF-Gasol
C-Uhhhh...Howard isn't well-rounded, but I'm not sure who else I could put here...maybe Bogut? Great defense, good rebounder/passer and an offensive game that doesn't revolve around brute strength? I honestly don't know.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:06 pm

Wade is not more All-round then Kobe, Chris.

PG: Deron
SG: Mamba
SF: Lebron
PF: Gasoline
C: Bogut......Maybe Yao
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:10 pm

And Deron is not more all-around then Rondo, Grenade.

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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:21 pm

Nice topic!

PG:Deron williams
SG:Durant
SF:Lebron
PF:gasol
C:yao
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Rondo can't shoot to save his life, Deron can.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:28 pm

PG - Steve Nash. One of the best passers in the league. Is a 50/40/90 club member. Can shoot as well as drive.

SG - Kobe Bryant. Why do I need to explain?

SF - Call me biased, but Carmelo Anthony. He can shoot, he can post up, he can grab rebounds, he can drive, he can pull up off the dribble, etc etc

PF - Kevin Garnett. It's tough between him and Gasol but Garnett is better at post defense, and he can post up, grab rebounds, block shots, and has a nice midrange jumpshot. He could do without the 20 illegal screens a game though

C - Idk...does Yao count? Either Yao or Bogut like everyone else is saying.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:29 pm

Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:30 pm

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Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Because he's fantastic on offense, a top-notch defender, one of the top rebounding SGs in the league, and has led LA in assists for almost a decade?
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:31 pm

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Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Because he's fantastic on offense, a top-notch defender, one of the top rebounding SGs in the league, and has led LA in assists for almost a decade?
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:32 pm

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Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Nash averaged 0.7 rebounds per game less than Deron Williams last year. 3.3 for a PG is great

And Marshy already answered the Kobe question...
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:34 pm

3.3 for a pg isnt great...5-6 is great..and deron averqaged more pts,and ast AND has way better D
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:36 pm

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Sr pancakes wrote:
Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Because he's fantastic on offense, a top-notch defender, one of the top rebounding SGs in the league, and has led LA in assists for almost a decade?

Offense, sure.

Top-notch defender? Only when he wants to be. Hell, with physical specimens like NBA players, anyone could be a top notch defender if they wanted to be.

Top rebounding SGs? He's one of the biggest guards, he better be getting me 6 boards a game lol.

Leading LA in assists is nothing. They play a triangle offense. It wasn't designed for players, specifically the PG, to get 10 assists a game.

Kobe is the best player in the league, don't get me wrong, but he's not the most all-around SG in the game. That title goes to Wade or Iggy if you want to count him as a SG.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:41 pm

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3.3 for a pg isnt great...5-6 is great..and deron averqaged more pts,and ast AND has way better D

6th in the NBA regarding PGs.

Deron averaged 18.7 and Nash averaged 16.5...yes Deron got more but only by 2. Nash averaged 11.0 while Deron averaged 10.5 for assists..what stat sheet are you reading?

Nash also shot 4% better from the field, 6% better from the three point line, and 13% better from the free throw line.

I will give you defense though.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:50 pm

PG: Westbrook- he can defend, he can drive,he can rebound better than nearly every other PG except Rondo, he can pass the ball pretty well too. he also can turn the ball over a lot. the total package! =] can also play SG when needed.
SG: Wade- Great scorer, and a very solid defenderm who excels at passing and can also crash the boards when needed.
SF: LeBron- need I say anything else?
PF: Pau Gasol- Can score,rebound,pass at a very high level for a big man,etc.
C- Andrew Bogut- can defend at a pretty high level, solid offensive game, pretty good passing.

David Lee would be on it but he has no defense.


yeah i was kinda biased on the westbrook thing but you can sort of make an arguement.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 7:51 pm

I change my PG pick to westbrook
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 8:01 pm

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Sr pancakes wrote:
Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Because he's fantastic on offense, a top-notch defender, one of the top rebounding SGs in the league, and has led LA in assists for almost a decade?

Offense, sure.

Top-notch defender? Only when he wants to be. Hell, with physical specimens like NBA players, anyone could be a top notch defender if they wanted to be.

Top rebounding SGs? He's one of the biggest guards, he better be getting me 6 boards a game lol.

Leading LA in assists is nothing. They play a triangle offense. It wasn't designed for players, specifically the PG, to get 10 assists a game.

Kobe is the best player in the league, don't get me wrong, but he's not the most all-around SG in the game. That title goes to Wade or Iggy if you want to count him as a SG.

Yes, Wade, an undersized SG (means he can be pushed around by a bigger SG, like, hmmm...what's his name...Kobe?) who scores most of his points driving into the lane and averages only 2 more assists than Kobe (despite Kobe playing in the triangle) and fewer rebounds is more well-rounded.

Kobe is stellar on offense and great on defense. He's more well-rounded than Wade is (how can Kobe be the best player in the game, yet be less well-rounded than another SG?). Maybe we have different ideas of well-rounded. For example, I'm LMFAO at Iggy being the most well-rounded SG in the league.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 8:06 pm

Wades bigger than kobe,actually. when it comes to bullying another player,weight is what matters..not a petty 2 inches. And all around means does everything..Iggy does everything..none great but all OK
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 8:07 pm

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Wades bigger than kobe,actually. when it comes to bullying another player,weight is what matters..not a petty 2 inches. And all around means does everything..Iggy does everything..none great but all OK

Okay, then a longer/taller SG like Kobe. *shrug*

As for Iggy, Kobe/Wade/Roy/others do virtually everything at higher levels.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 8:33 pm

Roy is a good choice too.
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 9:20 pm

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Sr pancakes wrote:
Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Because he's fantastic on offense, a top-notch defender, one of the top rebounding SGs in the league, and has led LA in assists for almost a decade?

Offense, sure.

Top-notch defender? Only when he wants to be. Hell, with physical specimens like NBA players, anyone could be a top notch defender if they wanted to be.

Top rebounding SGs? He's one of the biggest guards, he better be getting me 6 boards a game lol.

Leading LA in assists is nothing. They play a triangle offense. It wasn't designed for players, specifically the PG, to get 10 assists a game.

Kobe is the best player in the league, don't get me wrong, but he's not the most all-around SG in the game. That title goes to Wade or Iggy if you want to count him as a SG.

(there are some experts that think he`s the most all around player)

in his prime kobe ave.6.9 nearly 7 boards a game..and he had shaq than too..so he is a great rebounding sg.
6 assist for a sg isnt bad..its a good number.
8 time all defencive first team and 2 time all defensive second team should explain his "defence"
he is clutch witch not everybody is.

so kobe is the most all around sg in my player..(IMO)
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 9:48 pm

PG: Chris Paul- when he's healthy theres like nothing he cant do....for his career he averages 10 assists, 2 steals, 19 points and 5 rebounds......Very Happy

SG: Kobe or Wade....which one?......ima go with Wade cause of his athelticism

SF: Lebron.....

PF: Gasol, no one got post moves like this guy...plus he facilitates the triangle offense!

C: Yao if he counts....
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 9:57 pm

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Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Because he's fantastic on offense, a top-notch defender, one of the top rebounding SGs in the league, and has led LA in assists for almost a decade?
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I think chris made this thread so people would praise rondo, but nobody is picking him lol
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptySun Aug 08, 2010 10:17 pm

PG: Westbrook, if not than Rondo
SG: Bryant, if not than Wade
SF: James, if not than Durant
PF: Gasol/Garnett, if not than Garnett/Gasol
C: If you count Duncan as a C (you should, hes the tallest on his team, leads his team in boards, defends the tallest player on the other team, spends most of his time in the paint) than Duncan, if not Bogut.
C: If you don't count Duncan as a C, than Bogut, if not than Yao
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PostSubject: Re: Most all-around @ Every position?   Most all-around @ Every position? EmptyMon Aug 09, 2010 5:04 am

cbi wrote:
Sr pancakes wrote:
CAguyofftoUNC wrote:
Sr pancakes wrote:
Nash cant rebound,defend..why do people say kobe is well rounded..i dont get that one

Because he's fantastic on offense, a top-notch defender, one of the top rebounding SGs in the league, and has led LA in assists for almost a decade?
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I think chris made this thread so people would praise rondo, but nobody is picking him lol
lol.. Embarassed

But i didn't Wink
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