derrick rose.

Please don't tell me you didn't see those two dunks he just tortured Atlanta fans with.

If you didn't, the first one, was a fast break. Salmons leading it, threw an oop to Rose. And I think Rose was a mile above the ground.

The second, Rose was going 2-1 vs. ATL, spin move and the lane was wide open. He threw it down, very, very hard.

Derrick Rose is a beast.I mean that was the first dunk was sick

Rose is struggling the last games after the all-star selection, lol.

Wheres the another level that Rose is playing Darko?lmao

Rose's playing as Top 5 PG...

From when Darko?he played like a top PG for like 5 games and now he is gone like in the start of the season.

Rose = overrated

Chris if you think Rose is overrated then you should think Rondo is overrated.

Who does rondo play with? KG Pierce and Allen

who does Rose play with? *tumbleweed passes by*

Even with Rose doing most of the work and getting more attention from the defense, he is still shooting 47% from the field while averaging 20 PPG. Rondo's offense is SHIT. he's under 60% from the free throw line which just shows how bad of a shooter he is.. so his 11 PPG is pretty much all lay-ups... thats why his FG% is higher. It's not that hard for rondo to go in for lay-ups because defenders are afraid to move off of Pierce, allen or KG because rondo would just dish it to him.. and pick up another easy assist.

I will Rondo credit for his defense though.

and how has rose been shitty since being voted an all-star?

stats since he got voted in
22 PPG 6 APG 3 RPG 44% shooing.

^thats pretty good.

Stats for Rose as the year has gone on. Remember, Rose started off the season with an injured ankle

November Stats: 16 PPG 5 APG 3 RPG 46% shooting
December stats: 20 PPG 6 APG 4 RPG 45% shooting
January stats: 23 PPG 6.5 APG 4.5 RPG 51% shooting
so far in Feb stats: 22 PPG 6 APG 4RPG 43% shooting.


how the hell is that overrated?

and have you seen him play game after game? he's been hitting huge shots to keep the bulls in some of these games.

what does rondo do? he just passes it to allen or pierce hoping they hit a game winning shot so he can just add another ast. to his stat sheet. Put rondo on the bulls and his numbers would look like:
9 PPG 5 APG 4 RPG 49% shooting

do you think he would make the all star team then? probably not.

I saw those 2 dunks and man they were suck

Rock On got this argument easily. Rondo struggled against the Nets yesterday when I was watching that game, yes the NBA's worst Nets who can't play defense against a good HS team

also Rose played without Noah,and with Tyrus Thomas only getting 16 mins since VDN was an idiot enough to bench him, so he had to shoulder the load

1st of all KONJ, how he got the argument w/o even waiting to see what im going to say.

Night Of Drinkin wrote:

Chris if you think Rose is overrated then you should think Rondo is overrated.

Who does rondo play with? KG Pierce and Allen

who does Rose play with? *tumbleweed passes by*

Even with Rose doing most of the work and getting more attention from the defense, he is still shooting 47% from the field while averaging 20 PPG. Rondo's offense is SHIT. he's under 60% from the free throw line which just shows how bad of a shooter he is.. so his 11 PPG is pretty much all lay-ups... thats why his FG% is higher. It's not that hard for rondo to go in for lay-ups because defenders are afraid to move off of Pierce, allen or KG because rondo would just dish it to him.. and pick up another easy assist.

1st of all its 14.4ppg
Lame excuse that they are afraid of him, they even dont guard him to close because of his poor shooting skills and it makes even harder for Rondo to score and average a 53+FG%,it's amazing.
You again bring the Shoot thing.You have like nothing else to say about Rondo.What about the D that Rose hasn't?and the Passing skills?ofc Rondo gets some easy assists but most of them are hard work, he dishes 10ass per game, if it was only luck then he wouldn't be their MVP, you hear it? Rondo is their MVP.
And about the stats.
Exactly, what is everyone saying? when a player with a average team gets good stats < guy who gets good stats in a elite team.its a fact.
Even Rondo has better stats than Rose this year, better FG,Rbs,Ass and steals while Rose only PPG and Blocks(lmao).
It also makes me lough the thing that you are making excuses of Rose being injured, KG is injured all year long and none is making excuses of his poor performances.

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I will Rondo credit for his defense though.

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and how has rose been shitty since being voted an all-star?

stats since he got voted in
22 PPG 6 APG 3 RPG 44% shooing.

^thats pretty good.

Stats for Rose as the year has gone on. Remember, Rose started off the season with an injured ankle

November Stats: 16 PPG 5 APG 3 RPG 46% shooting
December stats: 20 PPG 6 APG 4 RPG 45% shooting
January stats: 23 PPG 6.5 APG 4.5 RPG 51% shooting
so far in Feb stats: 22 PPG 6 APG 4RPG 43% shooting.

I didn't said shitty, read better..i said struggling aka he is playing like the start of the season.
Doesn't he?doesn't he played only 10(at most) good games?please..

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how the hell is that overrated?

and have you seen him play game after game? he's been hitting huge shots to keep the bulls in some of these games.

Yes he is, because he hasn't played any good and they jump in the bandwaggon just for 5 good performances and call him god.
Ive seen some games but he wasn't playing good so i dont know when those "huge shots" happened.

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what does rondo do? he just passes it to allen or pierce hoping they hit a game winning shot so he can just add another ast. to his stat sheet. Put rondo on the bulls and his numbers would look like:
9 PPG 5 APG 4 RPG 49% shooting

This is the most BS argument i ever heard.Denying someones talent and archivements in just some sentences.amazing

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do you think he would make the all star team then? probably not.

I dont know, i just know some fans like you that they hate him because of his look and attitute so he couldn't be a started, but coaches would take him like 100%.

Chris how come your sentences dont make sense when you argue? lol.

I dont really wanna get in on this, cuz i dont care...but lemme say one thing.
At the start of this season, Rose was awful. Then he picked up around early December and hasn't looked back.

What you dont understand?

Your sentences...they just..dont make much sense. They make sense any other time..just when you're arguing i get confused :/

look at this then

Rondo's rookie year he shot 41% from the field. Rose shot 48% from the field his rookie year. Rondo's second year he gets KG and Allen added to the team and his FG% goes up to 49 and people are talking about how great Rondo is. Rose is shooting 47% from the field this year and our team is worse this year compared to last year. THATS how I know Rondo is overrated.


and we havent beaten good teams? the Bulls are the first team in NBA history to win 5 straight road games against teams over .500. not to mention our early season wins against the Magic, Celtics, cavs and spurs.


And at least Rose does play pretty decent D... Rondo is a shitty offensive player

rose has held Nash under 15 points, paul to 15 points, B. davis to 8 points, westbrook to 8 points, etc. etc.

Night Of Drinkin wrote:

look at this then

Rondo's rookie year he shot 41% from the field. Rose shot 48% from the field his rookie year. Rondo's second year he gets KG and Allen added to the team and his FG% goes up to 49 and people are talking about how great Rondo is. Rose is shooting 47% from the field this year and our team is worse this year compared to last year. THATS how I know Rondo is overrated.


and we havent beaten good teams? the Bulls are the first team in NBA history to win 5 straight road games against teams over .500. not to mention our early season wins against the Magic, Celtics, cavs and spurs.


And at least Rose does play pretty decent D... Rondo is a shitty offensive player

rose has held Nash under 15 points, paul to 15 points, B. davis to 8 points, westbrook to 8 points, etc. etc.

Rose's rookie year was better..yes i cant deny it.
But Rondo improved rapidly, he learned from all those Hall of Famers and now, based on performances (not overall skills) Rondo is their best player.

Ofc you guys have beaten many teams but Rose has played 10-15 good games all year long while Rondo has played so manys..

Rose's defense is as good as Rondo's offense if not worse.

And Rondo has held 2 many guys under 15pts and has many 20+points games(shitty offense?) and also 12+ass in so many games.

CBI wrote:

Your sentences...they just..dont make much sense. They make sense any other time..just when you're arguing i get confused :/

well, im trying to do it quick so i make mistakes..ill try to do it slower..english ain't my mother language

wait..wait...

did you just say Rose has played only 10-15 good games ALL year?

and you said you have been watching him play? HAHA


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/derrick_rose/game_by_game_stats.html

tell me how many good games you see

I easily see over 20

Chris, Celtic's Baby wrote:

But Rondo improved rapidly, he learned from all those Hall of Famers and now, based on performances (not overall skills) Rondo is their best player.

"he learned from all thos Hall of famers"

"Rondo is their best player"

so rondo is better than 3 HOF players?

okay...

I counted 10.

the rrest were great!


aww shitt.. i had you guys going there for a second.
Imma beast.

Yes ive been watching him in the start and some games in Jan and he wasn't that good.
I counted 17good efficient games with good stats also(ass, rbs)

I dont know what to say, rly.

What i said
"Rose's rookie year was better..yes i cant deny it.
But Rondo improved rapidly, he learned from all those Hall of Famers and now, based on performances (not overall skills) Rondo is their best player."

so are you blind or what?

Hes obviously not blind if he's reading what you're writing.
bud-doom-ch!

It looks like hes blind when he wants 2.

Selective seeing ... never heard of it.
Im a major in selective hearing.
buh-doom-ch!

dude!

Rondo is not clutch AT ALL, he has NO outside jumper, and and CANT shoot free throws.

6 outta 10 APG by Rondo come from him just throwing the ball to allen or pierce so they can hit the J.

I can even average 10 APG playing on the celtics.

it's funny how you say rondo is their best player

I can get 10 assists on the Bulls, something Rose cant seem to do!
buh-doom-ch!

the celtics are 32-16 this year. Its their worst start since having the big three together.

why is theit worst start? KG has been injured and Pierce has missed some time.

if rondo is SOOOO good, why isnt he stepping up?

thats right... its kinda hard to step up when you cant really score.

aslo have you noticed this? earlier this year Rondo was averaging close to 12 APG and now he's just under 10 APG.. why is that? Maybe it's beause that true all-stars on the team have been out with injury.

CBI wrote:

I can get 10 assists on the Bulls, something Rose cant seem to do!
buh-doom-ch!

no one can get 10 APG with the bulls. Not with offensive scrubs like Noah, thomas and salmons