Why is Antawn just riding the pine?

Dude has a knee problem (not Gilbert-esque), but he's still able to give you 20 and 10 any night! Is he really injured, is Scott trying to give Hickson the biggest opportunity and have Tawn as the 6th man? Or is he just gonna rot?

Even Mo Williams hasn't played all year!

PLEASE CLEVELAND! WE'LL TAKE ANTAWN BACK AND YOU CAN GET GILBERT! PLEASE GIVE US JAMARIO MOON AS WELL, to even out salary!!!! Our front court is SOOOOOO BAD and sure we faulted Tawn a bit, but we weren't manhandled when he was with us!

Antawn needs to be traded..but not here

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They definitely shouldn't be treating him like this in that city place people call "Cleveland"

Ikr..

There treatng awntawn bad..


6th man?
really!

I can see them making Antawn the 6th man given that he's able to be a mismatch offensively at the SF and PF positions. He's got length over most SF's, but still is too quick for most big men. He also has a nose for the rebounds. He should be getting 28-35 minutes a night depending on how the Moon/Hickson thing figures itself out.

Moon has been pure garbage minus a few dunks this season. Tawn just isn't getting a rhythm, but he'll get there. Hickson is improving, but he's not franchise player worthy. For now, that's Mo.

Mo williams will be their franchse player by the end of the season.

If Awntwan stars

Mo+tawn
could be sweet,To sneak in the 8th seed..

But thats all i see

Moon has not been garbage. Played really well against Boston. Really well.


You know why Tawns not getting minutes and he's coming off the bench? He's not producing. Thats all it is. its not the cavs fault, its tawns fault. he needs to play better defense(which is huge in this system), learn the offensive system and take smart shots. not a bunch of runners.

Plus he's played 21, 25 and 18 minutes with a pretty sore knee. Just doesnt seem like he's playing much cause he's not scoring. or taking smart shots. Or rebounding. Or playing defense.

Hickson is overrated. He shouldn't be a starting PF. He's a very poor rebounder and is a nonfactor on defense. As wiz said,moon is garbage. 1 average game against boston where he did get near 30 minutes doesnt excuse the other games.

cbi, the funniest part about this is this situation.

Byron Scott is a disciple of the Princeton offense for NBA use. One of his assistants, Eddie Jordan got to coach the Washington Wizards where the same system was used, and Antawn flourished in it though Jordan liked the Princeton being run at a very quick pace. Defense is obviously a key thing for the Cavs, but they are one of the worst teams defensively based on FG%age given up. At least the Cavs are able to keep the tempo slow, like they did last year.

Tawn played 21 mins in hickson and moons' best games of the season. its not like scott purposely keeps him outta the game, tries to get him playing time but he doesnt produce in the time he gets. only played 18 minutes against sac town, shot 7 times nad only hit one shot.
and idk about that wiz, maybe its his knee, maybe its his age, but he's just nto playing well in the princeton this year.




and yeah hickson might be overrated this year, but he's the future of the team. gotta play the future.

Hickson is averaging 5.7 rebounds on about 25 minutes a game. Jamison is averaging 2.3 rebounds on about 21 minutes a game. If Jamison isn't even grabbing 4 boards in 21 minutes, what makes you think he would grab 4 boards to match Hickson is he's given 4 more minutes of playing time? Not to mention the 8 PPG difference between the 4 minutes.

can a player be traded with a trade exception, or does that have to be traded on its own?

what a bright future
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@wiz I dont think Jamison ever flourished in the princeton. alot of times Jamison would score on the block in 1 on 1 situations. Not saying jamison cant play the princeton cuz he has mad range,too...Just saying without the post ups jamison might not have been that good.

Raza wrote:

Hickson is averaging 5.7 rebounds on about 25 minutes a game. Jamison is averaging 2.3 rebounds on about 21 minutes a game. If Jamison isn't even grabbing 4 boards in 21 minutes, what makes you think he would grab 4 boards to match Hickson is he's given 4 more minutes of playing time? Not to mention the 8 PPG difference between the 4 minutes.

It took people 2+ years to realize elton brand was done. why after 3 games should you even look at those stats??

Cornelius J. Summers wrote:

It took people 2+ years to realize elton brand was done. why after 3 games should you even look at those stats??

What other stats should I look at? The stats from LAST year? Jamison could have averaged 15 rebounds last year, but if he's not producing THIS year, he shouldn't be given the starting role.

Raza wrote:

Cornelius J. Summers wrote:

It took people 2+ years to realize elton brand was done. why after 3 games should you even look at those stats??

What other stats should I look at? The stats from LAST year? Jamison could have averaged 15 rebounds last year, but if he's not producing THIS year, he shouldn't be given the starting role.

That some shit id expect john to say. Last year means EVERYTHING are you tryna say everyone has a clean slate at the start of each season and byron scott and all coaches just "Guessed" the starting lineup? because nobody had played a game this year? Certain guys are starters,period.

If I were Scott, barring Antawn being a Diva (cbi prob knows better), healthy lineup is

TRADITIONAL HEIGHT
G - Mo Williams
G -Anthony Parker
F - Jamario Moon
F - Antawn Jamison
C - Anderson Varejao

TWEAKED LINEUP TO ADD HICKSON
G - Mo Williams
G -Anthony Parker
F - Antawn Jamison
F - JJ Hickson
C - Anderson Varejao

Cornelius J. Summers wrote:

That some shit id expect john to say. Last year means EVERYTHING are you tryna say everyone has a clean slate at the start of each season and byron scott and all coaches just "Guessed" the starting lineup? because nobody had played a game this year? Certain guys are starters,period.

But when you're deciding who to start for your REBUILDING team, who do you want? The 35 year old or the younger one with potential? Scott clearly saw something in Hickson, and so far, it's working out (in terms of the production of Hickson/Jamison, not as the team)

Until jamison proves he's no longer a starter,hes a starter. 1 more year of waiting wont hurt hickson....more than likely help him. Hickson cant teach himself.

Cornelius J. Summers wrote:

Raza wrote:

Cornelius J. Summers wrote:

It took people 2+ years to realize elton brand was done. why after 3 games should you even look at those stats??

What other stats should I look at? The stats from LAST year? Jamison could have averaged 15 rebounds last year, but if he's not producing THIS year, he shouldn't be given the starting role.

That some shit id expect john to say. Last year means EVERYTHING are you tryna say everyone has a clean slate at the start of each season and byron scott and all coaches just "Guessed" the starting lineup? because nobody had played a game this year? Certain guys are starters,period.

And

If he ave. 29 point last year

and breaks hs hand

in half a season avergaes 5 points..

he shouldnt be n the starting lineup

Cornelius J. Summers wrote:

Until jamison proves he's no longer a starter,hes a starter. 1 more year of waiting wont hurt hickson....more than likely help him. Hickson cant teach himself.

Hickson's doing fine as the starter..more rebounds would be nice, but he has over double the amount Jamison has in only 4 more minutes of playing time. Until Jamison puts up good production off the bench, the starting role is Hickson's

I feel like Jamison doesn't care one way or the other. He was a bench player when he was with Dallas too, while he was in his prime and didn't bitch about it once.

I think he's one of those rare team guys that want to do whats best for the team.

I've never once heard a bad thing ever said about Jamison or Jamison saying a bad thing about his team.

"It is what it is," Jamison said. "I don’t know what the role is going to (entail). I don’t know how many minutes I’ll play. I’m up in the air, just like you."

He's a lil upset...but handling it like a true man.

Cornelius J. Summers wrote:

He's a lil upset...but handling it like a true man.

I wouldn't expect anything less from him.

Oh... and Byron Scott is an idiot.