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PostSubject: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:27 pm

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Ranking-the-centers-11-through-1;_ylt=AqSd7.72qk.N4SXRux7fCZ28vLYF?urn=nba-265548
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Ranking-the-centers-21-through-11;_ylt=AvUJjBvvryp0_XdOD2Fip7y8vLYF?urn=nba-265420
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Ranking-the-centers-30-through-21;_ylt=ArbSDszhWB28FkxbSWisUtK8vLYF?urn=nba-265324
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Key rankings/Surprises:
Dwight Howard: 1
Marc Gasol: 9 (after Dwayne tried to convince us all he's top 3)
Greg Oden: 11
Nene: 8 cheers
Joakim Noah: 7
Al Horford: 4
Andrew Bogut: 2
Shaquille O'Neal: 18
Anderson Varejao: 16
Erick Dampier: Somehow on the list
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:49 pm

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Bynum doesn't get any touches and has great rebounders around him and still goes for 15 and 8

Lopez shot 14 shots a game
Bynum shot 11

Bynum gets his touches
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:49 pm

KNow why he doesnt get any touches? He gets injred every month and a half. ANd Gasol is the only great rebounder ahead of him, and just going by height(not really a good theory though) bynum should be a better rebounder.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:49 pm

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yeah. He's improving his O and he'll get more open looks with Boozer downlow. he averaged 10.7 in 30 minutes last year.. if he plays about 34 and get more open looks, saying he can average 3 more points isn't really a reach. I don't think he will, but I think he can.

His post moves fail in general, and with Boozer handling all the post moves, I don't see too many chances for Noah...except open dunks. But 7 open dunks a game seems wrong Razz

that's why I said improving haha. I don't think Noah is a great offensive player, but he has improved a lot. Boozer will take pressure off of him downlow.. that should give noah at LEAST 2 more shots a game.

again, last year he averaged 10.7 and 11 in 30 MPG. Next year I think he'll average 12.5/12 if he stays healthy and plays at least 34 MPG. increase of 1.3/1. but my jaw wouldn't drop if he averaged over 13
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Hickson but no Ibaka? :[

When did JJ Hickson become a center...?

I think he's talking about the top 30 PF list lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:50 pm

CAguyofftoUNC wrote:
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Hickson but no Ibaka? :[

When did JJ Hickson become a center...?
raza originally had the PF list in here, but he took it out and made a thread for it
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:50 pm

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again, last year he averaged 10.7 and 11 in 30 MPG. Next year I think he'll average 12.5/12 if he stays healthy and plays at least 34 MPG.

Yeah but...that's not 14. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:51 pm

Raza wrote:
CAguyofftoUNC wrote:
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Hickson but no Ibaka? :[

When did JJ Hickson become a center...?

I think he's talking about the top 30 PF list lol!

Oops. Lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:53 pm

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Bynum doesn't get any touches and has great rebounders around him and still goes for 15 and 8

Lopez shot 14 shots a game
Bynum shot 11

Bynum gets his touches

agreed. Lopez played 7 MPG more than Bynum and only averaged 3 more shot attempts on a worse team. Kobe and Gasol need there shots. Nobody on the Nets really needed there shots. Harris was out for periods of time.. so Lopez was the go-to-guy and only had 3 shot attempts more than AB.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:53 pm

Lopez attempts 3.2 FGs per game more and 2.2 FTs per game more.

based off the lower percentage of both (Lopez's FG and Bynum's FT) that would still equate out to about 4.8 points per game. So that difference in touches is actually pretty big.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:55 pm

Dub C wrote:
Lopez attempts 3.2 FGs per game more and 2.2 FTs per game more.

based off the lower percentage of both (Lopez's FG and Bynum's FT) that would still equate out to about 4.8 points per game. So that difference in touches is actually pretty big.

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I don't get it.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:55 pm

Raza wrote:
Dub C wrote:
Lopez attempts 3.2 FGs per game more and 2.2 FTs per game more.

based off the lower percentage of both (Lopez's FG and Bynum's FT) that would still equate out to about 4.8 points per game. So that difference in touches is actually pretty big.

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I don't get it.

I think that's what he was hoping for. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:56 pm

and Bynum is a good rebounder. On a team where everyone rebounds, he still manages to outrebound Lopez per minute. He's also better at boxing out.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:57 pm

Yeah because he's got kobe, odom, gasol who im sure get a lot of attention themselves when there's a miss. lopez has to do like all the work down low.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 10:59 pm

Raza wrote:
Dub C wrote:
Lopez attempts 3.2 FGs per game more and 2.2 FTs per game more.

based off the lower percentage of both (Lopez's FG and Bynum's FT) that would still equate out to about 4.8 points per game. So that difference in touches is actually pretty big.

...
I don't get it.

Lopez has the opportunity to get a lot more points than Bynum.

Remember when Gasol was hurt? Bynum was about 19 and 11 for the first 14 games of the season. He shot like 56% too.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:00 pm

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Remember when Gasol was hurt? Bynum was about 19 and 11 for the first 14 games of the season. He shot like 56% too.

Oh.
Dayyyyyyyum

With all you RBT people and all your cool facts, I can never pick a top 5 of any position Razz

Except PG.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:02 pm

There are more bacteria in 4 gallons of empty milk jugs filled with dirt than there are people in the earth.

make a top five outta that
thats right.
you cant
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:03 pm

Stats don't go up on a better team. They might stay about the same, but they also go down. Bynum is on a much better team. All the intangibles are just as good too. Footwork/passing/decisions. Nothing sets them apart. Bynum is a better and more efficient scorer and a slightly better rebounder. All lopez has going for him are stats, and they don't separate him far from Bynum. Only major advantage Lopez has is not being injured. When healthy, Bynum is better.
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There are more bacteria in 4 gallons of empty milk jugs filled with dirt than there are people in the earth.

make a top five outta that
thats right.
you cant
Cool

1. Chocolate Milk
2. Vanilla Milk
3. Strawberry Milk
4. Regular Milk
5. Low Fat Milk

Bitch.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:04 pm

No when you play on a good team you get more looks cause all the other good players are being guarded.
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Dub C wrote:
Stats don't go up on a better team. They might stay about the same, but they also go down. Bynum is on a much better team. All the intangibles are just as good too. Footwork/passing/decisions. Nothing sets them apart. Bynum is a better and more efficient scorer and a slightly better rebounder. All lopez has going for him are stats, and they don't separate him far from Bynum. Only major advantage Lopez has is not being injured. When healthy, Bynum is better.

Lopez has decent range for a big guy...
And Bynum makes (well he used to make, idk if he does anymore) stupid mistakes
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:05 pm

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cbi wrote:
There are more bacteria in 4 gallons of empty milk jugs filled with dirt than there are people in the earth.

make a top five outta that
thats right.
you cant
Cool

1. Chocolate Milk
2. Vanilla Milk
3. Strawberry Milk
4. Regular Milk
5. Low Fat Milk

Bitch.
EMPTY JUGS.
the kind doesnt matter lol
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:10 pm

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EMPTY JUGS.
the kind doesnt matter lol

IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT BACTERIA PREFER DIFFERENT FLAVOR MILK JUGS
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:12 pm

lies.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 32 NBA Centers   Top 32 NBA Centers - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 27, 2010 11:13 pm

I just scientifically proved it.

I took a glass of white milk and a glass of chocolate milk and let them sit in the open for 10 minutes

When I came back, the chocolate milk was brown, CLEALY showing that bacteria had swarmed it in favor of the white milk.
Duh.
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