Does micheal Jordan get to much credit?

First i didnt plan on writing this cause by peoples belive jordan is never wrong.
second JORDAN DOES DESERVE CREDIT,but not that much..i heard ppl saying jordan was the good player on his team.

other good player

scottie pippen:(dude gets no credit)..he everaged up to 22 shots per game,pulled down up too 8 rebounds and could ave. up to 7 assist per game, (22/8/7)<--- that is good,and he was clutch so when jprdan wasnt there he could prevail in cllutch moments,so this pler didnt suck.

horace grant:The dude could get you up to 15 points per game,and he got up two 11 rebounds per game,ave. a double double.yet he gets no credit at all (15/11) how does that sound

dennis rodman:not the bes offence but eve. up to 11 points one year,averaged up to 18.7 rebound per fkin game!...with great fg % and he was the best defender on the team lockdown defender and a uy like this scared off the best of players

they had ppl good for everything
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one guy ave. 1000% freethrow
one guy with a double doube
one guy gets you 18 rebounds
one guy is a lock down defender
one guy gets (22/8/7)
(jordan not mentioned)

JORDAN WAS THE BEST PLAYER AND HE DID MOST OF THE WORK AND HE WAS GREAT AND ALL but it isnt like the rest of his team was shit and he didnt do all of the work,(i hear ppl say blank could win without blank,and jordan won without anybody at all.

No one ever called the rest of the team shit...

Well, atleast not on here.

You'd have to be stupid to realize Jordan had help. You don't win 6 rings without a good supporting cast. He had one of the most storied coaches ever in Phil Jackson. One of the best "sidekicks" ever in Pippen who became a great all-around player and played lockdown defense. The Bulls enver had a real go to big man in the post bu Rodman and Grant were sufficient enough for them to win 6 rings if not more had Jordan not gone on his failed baseball experiment. I dubt any user here on RBT thinks Jordan's team waa bad.

well true but i was in a arguement with ma bud and i decided to disscusss it on here.

This isn't Y!A.

Everyone here understands how much his teammates did. Most of your facts look glanced over. So this isn't a strong argument if that's what you're trying to achieve.

Star players get star treatment. Magic, Bird, Kobe, Duncan, Russell are/were all surrounded by players that were some of the best at their respective positions.

The leader of the team gets face time with the camera, media, commercials, endorsements, love, respect, and most of all... the blame...

This isn't anything new.

Nick C wrote:

This isn't Y!A.

Everyone here understands how much his teammates did. Most of your facts look glanced over. So this isn't a strong argument if that's what you're trying to achieve.

Star players get star treatment. Magic, Bird, Kobe, Duncan, Russell are/were all surrounded by players that were some of the best at their respective positions.

The leader of the team gets face time with the camera, media, commercials, endorsements, love, respect, and most of all... the blame...

This isn't anything new.

true..i just thought of putting this out there,

but jordan never got the blame,never.

john (i heart sam) wrote:

Nick C wrote:

This isn't Y!A.

Everyone here understands how much his teammates did. Most of your facts look glanced over. So this isn't a strong argument if that's what you're trying to achieve.

Star players get star treatment. Magic, Bird, Kobe, Duncan, Russell are/were all surrounded by players that were some of the best at their respective positions.

The leader of the team gets face time with the camera, media, commercials, endorsements, love, respect, and most of all... the blame...

This isn't anything new.

true..i just thought of putting this out there,

but jordan never got the blame,never.

Before Jordan won his first three titles, he was blamed. Blamed for caring more about endorsements. Blamed for being a selfish scorer and a ball hog. Blamed not being able to elevate his team past the Celtics and Pistons. Blamed for not making his teammates better.

After his three titles and then retirement and then coming back to the Bulls mid season he was embraced, but there were plenty of loud voices that felt Jordan disrupted the team with his return. Also that season it was Jordan that got the ball ripped from him by Nick Anderson in the playoffs that sealed the season for Chicago. A lot of people were saying that Jordan should play second fiddle to Scottie who was a season removed and a bad call by Hue Hollins from playing the NBA Finals w/o Jordan.

So yeah... Jordan got shitted on too.

But like any great player, they overcome it.

Nick C wrote:

john (i heart sam) wrote:

Nick C wrote:

This isn't Y!A.

Everyone here understands how much his teammates did. Most of your facts look glanced over. So this isn't a strong argument if that's what you're trying to achieve.

Star players get star treatment. Magic, Bird, Kobe, Duncan, Russell are/were all surrounded by players that were some of the best at their respective positions.

The leader of the team gets face time with the camera, media, commercials, endorsements, love, respect, and most of all... the blame...

This isn't anything new.

true..i just thought of putting this out there,

but jordan never got the blame,never.

Before Jordan won his first three titles, he was blamed. Blamed for caring more about endorsements. Blamed for being a selfish scorer and a ball hog. Blamed not being able to elevate his team past the Celtics and Pistons. Blamed for not making his teammates better.

After his three titles and then retirement and then coming back to the Bulls mid season he was embraced, but there were plenty of loud voices that felt Jordan disrupted the team with his return. Also that season it was Jordan that got the ball ripped from him by Nick Anderson in the playoffs that sealed the season for Chicago. A lot of people were saying that Jordan should play second fiddle to Scottie who was a season removed and a bad call by Hue Hollins from playing the NBA Finals w/o Jordan.

So yeah... Jordan got shitted on too.

But like any great player, they overcome it.

wow you have alot of knowledge,i thought he was always made good by the media and they always try to make him got but i was wrong

I know some ball.

But better than that, I got to watch it firsthand. I was living in Chicago when the Bulls drafted Jordan. The fans were excited, but not at the level you'd expect from one of the best in the game. No one knew Jordan would be what Jordan became.

I remember when Rod Thorn selected Michael Jordan and said, (paraphrasing) "We think we got ourselves a good defensive small forward, who can chip in some scoring from time to time."

He went on to score 28 points a game his rookie year in a fashion I'd never seen before.

Nick C wrote:

I know some ball.

But better than that, I got to watch it firsthand. I was living in Chicago when the Bulls drafted Jordan. The fans were excited, but not at the level you'd expect from one of the best in the game. No one knew Jordan would be what Jordan became.

I remember when Rod Thorn selected Michael Jordan and said, (paraphrasing) "We think we got ourselves a good defensive small forward, who can chip in some scoring from time to time."

He went on to score 28 points a game his rookie year in a fashion I'd never seen before.

dam,nice,the only games i went to was, lakers vs warriors (i live 30 mins away) and two lakers games in la...luckly i watched kobe make a buzzer veater and everyone just went nuts in the,people were goin crazy.

Nick C wrote:

I know some ball.

But better than that, I got to watch it firsthand. I was living in Chicago when the Bulls drafted Jordan. The fans were excited, but not at the level you'd expect from one of the best in the game. No one knew Jordan would be what Jordan became.

I remember when Rod Thorn selected Michael Jordan and said, (paraphrasing) "We think we got ourselves a good defensive small forward, who can chip in some scoring from time to time."

He went on to score 28 points a game his rookie year in a fashion I'd never seen before.

YOU KNEW MICHAEL JORDAN!!!


KEWL!!

Infinite wrote:

Nick C wrote:

I know some ball.

But better than that, I got to watch it firsthand. I was living in Chicago when the Bulls drafted Jordan. The fans were excited, but not at the level you'd expect from one of the best in the game. No one knew Jordan would be what Jordan became.

I remember when Rod Thorn selected Michael Jordan and said, (paraphrasing) "We think we got ourselves a good defensive small forward, who can chip in some scoring from time to time."

He went on to score 28 points a game his rookie year in a fashion I'd never seen before.

YOU KNEW MICHAEL JORDAN!!!


KEWL!!

Haha... Yeah... Thanksgiving. Christmas. New Years. Cheap ass never brought food, presents or party hats.

I did see him in practice get killed by Pippen, lose his shit, then destroy Pippen. That's the closest I'd ever been near him.

Nick C wrote:

Infinite wrote:

Nick C wrote:

I know some ball.

But better than that, I got to watch it firsthand. I was living in Chicago when the Bulls drafted Jordan. The fans were excited, but not at the level you'd expect from one of the best in the game. No one knew Jordan would be what Jordan became.

I remember when Rod Thorn selected Michael Jordan and said, (paraphrasing) "We think we got ourselves a good defensive small forward, who can chip in some scoring from time to time."

He went on to score 28 points a game his rookie year in a fashion I'd never seen before.

YOU KNEW MICHAEL JORDAN!!!


KEWL!!

Haha... Yeah... Thanksgiving. Christmas. New Years. Cheap ass never brought food, presents or party hats.

I did see him in practice get killed by Pippen, lose his shit, then destroy Pippen. That's the closest I'd ever been near him.

dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..hella lucky

Um..we know.

Yeah but to win a championship you need to be a good team.Sometimes 2 star players aren't enough,sometimes it is.The only one who have managed to win titles without any notable and historical names in the game of basketball are Rick Barry and Hakeem Olajuwon but as usual they get dissed out of any argument,well Barry does,Hakeem not to often

He got credit,he got blame but championships are the only thing that will make people forget.