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PostSubject: Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic   Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 16, 2009 1:05 pm

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stephen jackson and acie law got traded to the bobcats for nothing, Look here : http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/wires/11/16/2030.ap.bkn.warriors.bobcats.trade.1st.ld.writethru.0407/
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic   Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 16, 2009 4:08 pm

Curry and Monta can't seem to coexist and Monta isn't really a PG. He should be made into a 20+ PPG utility man off the bench that's what best fits him. Maggette has a better chance at starting, but he is so versatile better to just play him off the bench where he can be placed as a SG, SF, and PF. He too can be a 20+ PPG player off the bench.

This allows Curry to have the free space to just be him and see if he can serve well as a PG. He can stroke it and so can Raja Bell, so the offense should not suffer. Not to mention Buike has shown that he can be a reliable option on offense. They should also see what the young Randolph can do.

Bell, Buike, Randolph, and Biedrins = great defensive unit
Curry, Bell = good sharpshooting backcourt combo
Azubuike, Biedrins, Curry, Bell, and Randolph = good scoring 5
Ellis, Maggette, Morrow, Radmanovic = very good scoring reserves
Turiaf, Wright, Watson = decent role players


Don Nelson is a successful coach he has to put ideas of the past run n gun first Warriors team behind him because that team was a team built around Baron Davis who no longer is there. The Warriors free for all pace/small ball was different then what it is for the Suns, Knicks, and Pacers. In that they do not have many play sets it was more of a free for all and Davis played that role beautifully. Mike D'Antoni, Alvin Genrty (Mike D), and Jim O'Brien's uptempo run n gun teams are quite systematic really. The free for all style no longer matches the style of the Warrior players today. Ellis maybe can match it scoring wise, but he can't orchestrate such a style. Don Nelson needs to move with the times in that Davis, Richardson, Jackson, Harrington, Pietrus, and Barnes aren't there any more and the team needs to turn over a new leaf.
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic   Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 16, 2009 4:12 pm

Turiaf is great on D, Radmanovic, we should just buy out. Curry isn't having a problem co-existing, he's having a problem existing at all, and seems completely lost at times. Buike is now likely out for the season, so still, we need a forward. This was a terrible trade for us cuz we now absorbed Radmanovic's worthless contract. At least we were paying Jack to be a decent player. Radmanovic has 2! years left at 6 mil a piece. Our front office is stupid.
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Don Nelson sucks,yeah that's right i said it
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Then start Maggette @ SF and keep Monta as a 6th Man to see if that awakens Curry. This team no longer can be such a carefree run n gun team they need to enforce plays and need to become more of a defensive stopper team. Look at the Suns they are nowhere near an ideal defensive team, but bringing in Dudley, J.Rich, and Amundson has made them a much better defensive team than what they were before at least they are aware of defense. Let Bell start along with Randolph/Biedrins (that's too bad about Buike if it's true) and the team would become more successful. Monta can still be the go to guy scoring wise off the bench. He is better suited in that capacity. Maggette starts then, but you guys should try to trade his bloated contract to be completely absolved from not only Steve Jax, but Maggete's contract as well and then just begin to build the team from the ground up. They can still make the playoffs Hornets are done it's between GS, SAC, and OKC for that 8th spot.
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Nelson use to be a good coach. In the 80's and early 90's when teams liked to run and gun and his small ball could work. But he's a terrible coach during the playoffs and seems to care less and less about giving guys like Randolph more playing time.

Monta is not a PG.
Curry... even if he is a willing passer... is not a PG
Even with Acie Law on the roster Nelson said he wanted him to strengthen up to play small forward (WTF?!).

Nelson is one lost marble away from being an empty jughead.
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solid trade to get rid of Jackson and some cap space for a solid shooter and defender which they need

Radmanovic can shoot and works in that system
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic   Stephen Jackson and Acie Law traded to the Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmonovic - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 16, 2009 8:00 pm

*sighs*

Oh well, I knew this was coming.
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Nelson use to be a good coach. In the 80's and early 90's when teams liked to run and gun and his small ball could work. But he's a terrible coach during the playoffs and seems to care less and less about giving guys like Randolph more playing time.

Monta is not a PG.
Curry... even if he is a willing passer... is not a PG
Even with Acie Law on the roster Nelson said he wanted him to strengthen up to play small forward (WTF?!).

Nelson is one lost marble away from being an empty jughead.

steph is a good PG.
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If we just had a coach who fucking cared about the team, then we would be around .500 instead of having 15-year playoff droughts.
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its funny how he wanted to go to a title contender and instead went to another organization that cant seem to win lol
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yeah our GM kinda fails. But that's OK.
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Khai (DriveMyGerman) wrote:
yeah our GM kinda fails. But that's OK.

well not his problem anymore now lol
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why couldnt we get Diaw?
that would have helped...
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Not surprised

Another good player GSW gets rid of for............
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why couldnt we get Diaw?
that would have helped...

Bobcats and Larry Brown probably didn't want to give him up

Bobcats got a scorer now.

I think they got an 8th spot playoff team with a lineup of

PG Raymond Felton
SG Stephen Jackson
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Boris Diaw
C Tyson Chandler

thats certainly a capable roster. I think Bobcats are a pretty solid team on paper now. They have depth as well and a good scorer in DJ Augustin off the bench
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I just hope that Captain Jack can chill now that he is on the Bobcats.
For some reason, I am kinda happy for him, haha.
I don't know...
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I just hope that Captain Jack can chill now that he is on the Bobcats.
For some reason, I am kinda happy for him, haha.
I don't know...

I did feel good for him at first... but... swapping Don Nelson's lackadaisical style for Larry Brown's stick up your ass approach to coaching...

Damn... now I feel bad for him again.

I don't even like Steve Jackson.


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I heard about this thrade threw text.

And I THREW MY PHONE ON THE GROUND!!
.Er.. sorry.. got that song stuck in my head.

But nah.. I think this trade is somewhat.. maybe.. kinda fair.
I mean, Jackson doesnt' exactly have his head in the game and Acie isn't exactly good.. while Raja is a beast(lol, exaggeration.. but I love Raja.. no homo) and Vladi is .. solid(?) so yeah.
Kinda.. maybe.. barely even.
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Seriously, he better relax now that he is on the Bobcats.
Larry Brown may be stricter than Nelson was, but I hope he is able to take a step back and respect his coaching technique - or other teams may start viewing him as a team cancer.
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Acie Law needs to do something. That guy is talented and if he doesn't get situated soon and show the NBA what he can do, that would be a very pitiful waste of great NBA potential.
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