Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:04 pm
It's not about MVPs.
Kobe is better than Steve Nash Jordan is better than Kobe
It's just the natural order.
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:05 pm
This is what makes me to dislike Kobe even if i dont want to. Kobe Lovers have a huge crush Kobe's defense and his 3's!
"Wade is the best player ever!", have you ever seen a Wade fan telling that ? or "Lebron is best ever" by lebron fans?
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:07 pm
NIB wrote:
This is what makes me to dislike Kobe even if i dont want to. Kobe Lovers have a huge crush Kobe's defense and his 3's!
"Wade is the best player ever!", have you ever seen a Wade fan telling that ? or "Lebron is best ever" by lebron fans?
Lebron fans call him Legod....
Wade fans are no better.
And let me remind you guys that I'M a JOE JOHNSON FAN!...Its just my opinion that Kobe is better...I respect everyone elses opinion..why can't you guys respect mines?
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:08 pm
M.V.P wrote:
NIB wrote:
This is what makes me to dislike Kobe even if i dont want to. Kobe Lovers have a huge crush Kobe's defense and his 3's!
"Wade is the best player ever!", have you ever seen a Wade fan telling that ? or "Lebron is best ever" by lebron fans?
Lebron fans call him Legod....
Wade fans are no better.
And let me remind you guys that I'M a JOE JOHNSON FAN!...Its just my opinion that Kobe is better...I respect everyone elses opinion..why can't you guys respect mines?
So if I say LeBron > Joe Johnson you'll respect my opinion?
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:08 pm
I respect your opinion but its obvious Jordan is better than Kobe
Kobe said MJ is the best player of alltime himself
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:09 pm
M.V.P wrote:
NIB wrote:
This is what makes me to dislike Kobe even if i dont want to. Kobe Lovers have a huge crush Kobe's defense and his 3's!
"Wade is the best player ever!", have you ever seen a Wade fan telling that ? or "Lebron is best ever" by lebron fans?
Lebron fans call him Legod....
Wade fans are no better.
And let me remind you guys that I'M a JOE JOHNSON FAN!...Its just my opinion that Kobe is better...I respect everyone elses opinion..why can't you guys respect mines?
haha!! your respected opinion is disrespecting Michael Jordan lol
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:09 pm
Penny Hardaway is better than Joe Johnson as a matter of fact since you mentioned Penny being an All star in the 90s
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:09 pm
PS i respect your opinion too!!
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:09 pm
Part 3?
hahahah
where have I been
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:10 pm
King Of NJ wrote:
I respect your opinion but its obvious Jordan is better than Kobe
Kobe said MJ is the best player of alltime himself
I co-sign and we had this Kobe-MJ argument with Alpha Wolf who's a delusional moron. At least MVP is cool but this argument is tiring.
We talked about it way too much
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:10 pm
King Of NJ wrote:
Penny Hardaway is better than Joe Johnson as a matter of fact since you mentioned Penny being an All star in the 90s
lol...there is a difference between respecting an opinion, and being foolish.
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:10 pm
I think it's time to go play in traffic again moron...
Sad that you think Kobe is even close to Jordan
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:11 pm
The Big Diesel wrote:
M.V.P wrote:
NIB wrote:
This is what makes me to dislike Kobe even if i dont want to. Kobe Lovers have a huge crush Kobe's defense and his 3's!
"Wade is the best player ever!", have you ever seen a Wade fan telling that ? or "Lebron is best ever" by lebron fans?
Lebron fans call him Legod....
Wade fans are no better.
And let me remind you guys that I'M a JOE JOHNSON FAN!...Its just my opinion that Kobe is better...I respect everyone elses opinion..why can't you guys respect mines?
So if I say LeBron > Joe Johnson you'll respect my opinion?
Yeah, Of course I disagree, but I respect your opinion..This is America...not Nazi Germany..
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:23 pm
Here is the real comparison of Kobe and MJ
Scoring:MJ (highest career ppg and playoff ppg) Passing:MJ(lets just say kobe isnt a good passer.....mj had a pretty high assist average early on.) Rebounding:MJ(both were 2 guards but MJ was much better) On ball Defense:MJ(I think both are kinda overrated here but jordan played more phisical so im giving this to him) Off ball Defense:MJ....by a mile
Comptetion:
Ask urself. Yes MJ never won till the 90's but he had to go up against the utah jazz which contained Stockton(2nd best PG) and Malone (2nd best PF),the Orlando magic with Shaq....a young shaq along with peny.....better than the orlando magic now,Patrick Ewing a top 10 center who was great on offense and defense and his knicks, a strong supersonic team with kemp and payton,etc.
Kobe Bryant had to go up against the NJNs.....the Philidelphia Iversons......the defenceless suns(who they lost to...) and the only REAL comptetion was maybe SA,Boston and.......
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:24 pm
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Here is the real comparison of Kobe and MJ
Scoring:MJ (highest career ppg and playoff ppg) Passing:MJ(lets just say kobe isnt a good passer.....mj had a pretty high assist average early on.) Rebounding:MJ(both were 2 guards but MJ was much better) On ball Defense:MJ(I think both are kinda overrated here but jordan played more phisical so im giving this to him) Off ball Defense:MJ....by a mile
Comptetion:
Ask urself. Yes MJ never won till the 90's but he had to go up against the utah jazz which contained Stockton(2nd best PG) and Malone (2nd best PF),the Orlando magic with Shaq....a young shaq along with peny.....better than the orlando magic now,Patrick Ewing a top 10 center who was great on offense and defense and his knicks, a strong supersonic team with kemp and payton,etc.
Kobe Bryant had to go up against the NJNs.....the Philidelphia Iversons......the defenceless suns(who they lost to...) and the only REAL comptetion was maybe SA,Boston and.......
Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:30 pm
Kobe isn't a better defender than MJ......and you said he was " Clearly" a better defender. MJ wouldn't have let an injured gilbert arenas score 61 pts on his ass...
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:41 pm
M.V.P wrote:
Chosen One wrote:
Here is the real comparison of Kobe and MJ
Scoring:MJ (highest career ppg and playoff ppg) Passing:MJ(lets just say kobe isnt a good passer.....mj had a pretty high assist average early on.) Rebounding:MJ(both were 2 guards but MJ was much better) On ball Defense:MJ(I think both are kinda overrated here but jordan played more phisical so im giving this to him) Off ball Defense:MJ....by a mile
Comptetion:
Ask urself. Yes MJ never won till the 90's but he had to go up against the utah jazz which contained Stockton(2nd best PG) and Malone (2nd best PF),the Orlando magic with Shaq....a young shaq along with peny.....better than the orlando magic now,Patrick Ewing a top 10 center who was great on offense and defense and his knicks, a strong supersonic team with kemp and payton,etc.
Kobe Bryant had to go up against the NJNs.....the Philidelphia Iversons......the defenceless suns(who they lost to...) and the only REAL comptetion was maybe SA,Boston and.......
what does this have to do with Defense?
This is just an overview of everything... INCLUDING DEFENSE.....
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:43 pm
Michael = DPOY in an era with great and I mean GREAT defensive players (Gary Payton, David Robinson, Sidney Moncrief, even Scottie Pippen).
KB = no DPOY's in an era that can't be compared at all defensively to the 80's-90's
Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:47 pm
I am sorry but I think Kobe is quite overrated defensively. When I think of excellent defensive players, Kobe is the last player to come to mind. I am still surprised that he was chosen over Wade for all-defensive team because I don't think that Kobe plays much defense; that is just my perspective though.
Therefore, with regards to defense Jordan > Kobe.
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:49 pm
Spurs Raptors Fan wrote:
I am sorry but I think Kobe is quite overrated defensively. When I think of excellent defensive players, Kobe is the last player to come to mind. I am still surprised that he was chosen over Wade for all-defensive team because I don't think that Kobe plays much defense; that is just my perspective though.
Therefore, with regards to defense Jordan > Kobe.
I really want to post that video now but Jordan>Kobe any day
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Subject: Re: The REAL reason Kobe is better than MJ part 3 Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:50 pm
The only reason kobe made it into those teams were cause this era lacks great defensive SG's.....Raja Bell is the only person who comes to mind....and maybe wade(snubbed)
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