Who is the best lyricist ever in the rap game?

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Eminem owns everybody!

depends what you mean by "best"...

Because there are guys like Canibus, MF Doom, Aesop Rock, etc. who's lyrics take at least 5 times to actually understand, but then it alllll makes sense and you realize how great they are.

But of course, other people like rappers who people can relate too, I guess for most people that's Eminem nowadays but my personal faves are the Pharcyde, Slug (not really, I just like one of his songs he did with Molemen, Atmosphere's kinda gay), Sixth Sense, Ces Cru, MF Grimm, etc...but it really depends on what you mean by best lyricist.

LakerGirl wrote:

Lupe is basic. Show me one song where his lyrics will me you say ' wow'.

Dumb It Down
Absolute
The Cool
Mean and Vicious
The Coolest
Go Go Gadget Flow


and a shitload of others

I'm fearless
Now hear this
I'm earless
And I'm peerless
That means I'm eyeless

what does the previous lines have to do with his eyes? Thats a weak verse if I ever heard on..gtfoh with lupe..

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does that even rhyme

peer2    /pɪər/ Show Spelled
[peer] Show IPA

–verb (used without object)
1. to look narrowly or searchingly, as in the effort to discern clearly.
2. to peep out or appear slightly.
3. to come into view.

He can't peer. So he can't see. You know the definition of peer... I know you do. That was a bad example :/

fearless, earless,peerless, hear this all rhyme, especially if said at fast pace. I imagine he goes on to rhyme stuff with eyeless....

Damn I don't even listen to music... this is too easy :/

Being lyrical also involves delivering a message. Ok, nigga, you can't see..tell me something.

Are you purposely acting fucking stupid?

Oryou decided to judge a song by the first 5 lines?

The entire fucking message of the song is that Lupe raps about shit other than bitches and that his record label and everyone else want him to "dumb it down" so people actually understand his lyrics. The irony of the title is that this is one of his most confusing songs ever cause of all the metaphors and shit.

Took both pills, when a bloke in a trench coat and the locs in the chair had approached him
Here
And he clear as a ghost, so a biter of the throats in the mirror
The writer of the quotes for the ghosts who supplier of the notes to the living
Riveting is rosy, pockets full of posies, given to the mother of the deceased. Awaken at war,
'til I'm restin' in peace


CHORUS:
You goin' over niggas' heads Lu (Dumb it down)
They tellin' me that they don't feel you (Dumb it down)
We ain't graduate from school nigga (Dumb it down)
Them big words ain't cool nigga (Dumb it down)
Yeah I heard Mean And Vicious nigga (Dumb it down)
Make a song for the bitches nigga (Dumb it down)
We don't care about the weather nigga (Dumb it down)
You'll sell more records if you (Dumb it down)

But the metaphor was wack, therefore, the shit, was wack...He is wack, and you have to be pretty stupid to interpret it as cleverness.

right now.


tell me EVERY metaphor in dumb it down. with meaning. listen to it and then get back at me


i have a feeling you dont even get half of the lines cause its too complicated for you

thats why you missed the fucking obvious peerless/eyeless relation

Good lyricist don't use metaphors, for one, and I'm not breaking down a whole song, but give me a verse and I will. Complex lyrics, substance, and story make a good rapper. Complex metaphors + fancy words does not mean your a good lyricist. It means you made up a story, and used a thesaurus. I've never heard of one rapper who rapped over my head. How dumb are some of these niggas out here. Mfs acting like these dudes are spitting about quantum physics, astronomy,etc.

Really?

Lupe has insanely complex lyrics,he raps more about REAL shit than 95% of the rappers out there. He raps about hunger,politics,worldwide issues,etc. His entire album the Cool was a STORY with characters...

Failure and Streets On Fire are pretty good too
Listen to Hurt Me Soul if you want substance.
Here I'll give you a link too it as well
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/lupefiasco/hurtmesoul.html

You never heard a rapper that went over your head yet you couldn't catch a fuckign relationship between peerless and eyes?

I like to think that I'm halfway, semi-intelligent, so I don't look to a rapper to hear about politics. I prefer Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. I consider 'real shit' drugs, money, things people can relate to, because I live in America, and I can get hired, and I do have water.

K. Go ahead and listen to Young Money. since you wanna hear rappers brag about their own money and listen to wiz khalifa talking about how high he's getting

Not about getting high or the money. About getting the money, or selling the drugs. Young money?!? No, you have me confused. Try Fat trel, Chip tha ripper, Brother Ali, Sluttyboyz, Wale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvnyFiZy_E try that.

And if you're gonna rap about politics, know a little bit about it..just a suggestion to him.

LakerGirl wrote:

I like to think that I'm halfway, semi-intelligent, so I don't look to a rapper to hear about politics. I prefer Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. I consider 'real shit' drugs, money, things people can relate to, because I live in America, and I can get hired, and I do have water.

I really dgaf about rap, but if you were semi-intelligent, you sure as hell wouldn't be listening to Glenn Beck.

Don't even go there. Glenn Beck will debate circles around both of us. Glenn Beck is top notch..

Fox News wrote:

Don't even go there. Glenn Beck will debate circles around both of us. Glenn Beck is top notch..

When you're too far right wing for Fox News to keep you, you know that you're batshit insane.

Fiscally right, hell yeah! haha I think poor people do nothing but bring down the value of houses, and neighbor-hoods, all together, therefore I wish for their non-existence. And Glenn Beck and Rush aren't all hardcore-Left like Hannity, Levin, Black, etc. At least not socially speaking, and notice I said hardcore left, because endorsing our monetary system, endorsing the military industrial complex, these are not staunch conservatives, and these are democratic standards. The Republicans have been on a timeline, and as time goes on, we've gone more and more left. Making the party look worse and worse. Don't look at that bitch Sarah Palin and think she's a conservative! The fact is, her and Andrew Jackson could sit and get along for hours. When you hear about these Muslim bashing 'conservatives', or these war monger 'conservatives', I think Reagan would say that is pretty apeshit Liberal, and there is definitely nothing conservative about invading a country, or amending the constitution to outlaw being gay ( or amending it at all, for that matter), or endorsing a unconstitutional monetary system. A conservative without his pocket-sized constitution, isn't a conservative.

We went from rap lyrics to politics

CHIP THE RIPPER. Ctowns best rapper. Which isn't saying much.

Its either him or Kid Cudi :/

You hip to that Chip tha Ripper? Perfect example of a guy who uses no metaphors, and can spit a storm.