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PostSubject: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 7:08 pm

Team 1996

PG-Allen Iverson
SG-Kobe Bryant
SF-Peja Stojakovic
PF-Antoine Walker
C-Marcus Camby
6th Man-Steve Nash
7th Man-Ray Allen
8th Man-Jermaine O’Neal
9th Man-Stephon Marbury

VS.

Team 2003

PG-Kirk Hinrich
SG-Dwyane Wade
SF-LeBron James
PF-Chris Bosh
C-Chris Kaman
6th Man-Carmelo Anthony
7th Man-David West
8th Man-Mo Williams
9th Man-Josh Howard


Pick one and explain why you think that team would win.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 7:11 pm

2003 easily I believe


Walker chucks
Iverson chucks
Peja is useful for scoring

I should mention that these three players do not play defense too.

Nash also doesn't play defense at all.

and the thing is, there aren't sufficient defenders on team 1996 to compensate for the atrocious defensive abilities (or lack of). Hence why I say team 2003.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 7:16 pm

I vote 2003.

Kind of for the same reason Jaleesa picked them. AI, nash, stojakovic, walker, allen, and marbury aren't great defenders. A couple of them are actually awful defenders.

also, most of the players on team 1996 are more likely to shoot the ball then drive it in or pass it.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 7:24 pm

1996

Iverson > Kirk
Kobe > Wade
Lebron > Peja
Bosh > Walker
Camby > Kaman
Melo > Nash
Ray Ray > West
O'Neal > Mo
Marbury = Howard
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 7:29 pm

Raza wrote:
1996

Iverson > Kirk
Kobe > Wade
Lebron > Peja
Bosh > Walker
Camby > Kaman
Melo > Nash
Ray Ray > West
O'Neal > Mo
Marbury = Howard

that's such a poor way to figure out which team is better ahaha.

Iverson > kirk on O. Kirk > AI on D.
LBJ > Peja in everything except shooting 3's.
Bosh > walker in everything except shooting 3's.
Camby > Kaman on D. Kaman can still block shots though and is a better player on O.
Kobe > Wade overall.. but it's close cuz wade is still VERY good.. and is more of a willing passer.

u gotta look at everything..
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 7:34 pm

A.I wins this because he's a good perimeter defender and Hinrich all he does is shoot, A.I will have no problem against Hinrich's "effort" defense.
Kobe wins the 2nd, while Wade can slow him down Kobe can slow down Wade too and Kobe is a better scorer, not to mention best finisher in the game.
This clearly goes to 03, Lebron will shut down Peja and Peja will have no chance guarding Lebron.
2-2, Antoine is hella good of a player but i don't see him playing at PF, especially agains't a much bigger opponent, i say Bosh.
This is a wash, i am not a fan of Camby not Kaman, if we count career wise..I still think it's a tie, Kaman wil not score much on Camby nor will Camby score on Kaman..Camby sucks at Offense.
Bench?
96 definitely got the better bench.
But bench doesn't make a big impact..

So if 03 team put's Lebron on Kobe/A.I and Wade on Peja or something that a less good defender will guard Peja they automatically have their best defenders on the best offensive weapons of 96's team. With that way they can still score because A.I can't defend nor Peja..
Also the mismatch at the PF position will be a big factor..
96 doesn't have a dominand C so 0 help from down low.

I go with 2003.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 7:39 pm

2003 because they actually have a little from everything

1996 draft class,aside of Kobe and Camby,do they play defense?Exactly..
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:10 pm

LOL...

Like Kirk Hinrich is gonna stop Iverson Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:11 pm

Camby and JO in their prime were two of the top shot blockers and defender in the NBA.

2003 has... Kaman in the middle... whoa... blow me over.

1996 has way better shooters better passing and MVPS!!! HELLO!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:29 pm

1996 no question. no doubt about it. no.... question again.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:37 pm

1996 definitely. A lot of people forget that Walker was an All-Star several times.

Make this the line-up:

PG: Steve Nash
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Kobe Bryant (way better defense on LeBron)
PF: Jermaine O'Neal
C: Marcus Camby
6: Allen Iverson
7: Antoine Walker
8: Peja Stojakovic
9: Stephon Marbury

Nash kills Hinrich, I mean MURDERS.
Ray Allen has great defense imo, and Wade would have to chase Ray Allen ALL GAME LONG.
Kobe and LeBron? Let's not start.
A prime Jermaine O'Neal is really tough, amazing rebounder and amazing defender. Amazinger than Chris Bosh.
Marcus Camby in prime DOMINATES Chris Kaman in the middle.
+the 6th man. Melo vs AI. Former teammates. Uh, I'll take Ray Ray and Kobe's defense on Carmelo over Hinrich and Wade's defense on Iverson, who will burn them every minute he is in.

1996.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:39 pm

lol at Kobe Bryant(way better defense on LeBron) then Lets not start.

You already started liar!
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:40 pm

NOOOO. I meant way better defense on LeBron than Peja.

Kobe's Defense
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:41 pm

Ohh

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yeah but that lineup sucks. I would definatly start Iverson over Nash and put kobe at SG and start walker or someone at SF
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:41 pm

or be really cool and go

G Nash
G Iverson
G Kobe
G Allen
C Camby

Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:42 pm

lmao. thats what i was thinkin.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:43 pm

Disregarding defense that offense would be sickkkkkkk
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:44 pm

screw defense they would easily score 150 a game.
really, nobody would catch up with them.
aside from camby, the whole starting 5 will be down the court in like 2 seconds compared to 03's like... 5 seconds.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:45 pm

Imagine Nash running that fast paced offense Shocked

we're talking 30 assists a game lol
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:47 pm

lmao, iverson would have around 3 assists/40 points
kobe would have like 8 assists/45 points
allen would have about 5 assists/35 points
nash would have like 50 assists/30 points
camby, like 18 rebounds/4 blocks/4 points
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:49 pm

Lozan (: <3 wrote:
A lot of people forget that Walker was an All-Star several times.

Overpaid and overrated
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:56 pm

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Lozan (: <3 wrote:
A lot of people forget that Walker was an All-Star several times.

Overpaid and overrated

Main part of the Celtics run in 2003 (I think, or maybe it was 2002) in the play-offs, teamed up with Pierce. Averaged like 22 PPG in that play-offs. Plus like 8 or 9 rebounds. From Rookie Season to 2005 he had 30+ minutes a game, and in those days he always averaged from like 16-24 a season, and 8+ rebounds per game.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:56 pm

Walker averaged 18/8/4 throughout his career and was a 3-time all-star
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 9:00 pm

Yeah.. Walker was a dickhead and shot too much but he was a multifaceted player.

Besides I'd take an in his prime AW over David West and Josh Howard.
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PostSubject: Re: Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003   Team 1996 Vs. Team 2003 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 9:06 pm

I still think he is overrated and wasn't deserving of that max contract he received. My opinion...I wouldn't take him personally.
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