Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL?

Subject: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:36 am

http://www.nba.com/news/features/aldridge.2010.freeagency/#shaqupdate

Idk, but I see this as horrible for the Cavs and pretty good for the Hawks.

You guys?

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:18 am

Marvin Williams to Cleveland and Shaq in Atlanta?

Good move for the Hawks

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:29 am

cavs suck shit....shaq is done but nonetheless he's 7'2 320+ so good move

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:08 am

Bad move for the Hawks and good for the Cavs

Marvin Williams isn't that bad and could add some value on offense and is still pretty young. It'd be a steal to get Marvin Williams when they're going to give up Shaq anyway. Marvin can put up 15ppg still. I love Shaq but he doesn't have much left in the tank, and I don't think he fits the way the Hawks play

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:04 am

ewwwwwww.

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:21 pm

DONT Want Shaq!!

I think its a bad move for the Hawks we trade in a young player who does improve each season little by little for a locker room cancer not to mention old and slow Shaq

The Hawks are desperate right now for Centers to guard Dwight, but Shaq is not the answer

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:22 pm

Peaches (: wrote:: The Hawks are desperate right now for Centers to guard Dwight,

Every team other than really Boston wants a Center who can guard Dwight...

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:23 pm

HOU has a C that DH12 can't guard and gets the better of him too bad he's as breakable as a stem.

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:29 pm

Define. wrote:

Peaches (: wrote:: The Hawks are desperate right now for Centers to guard Dwight,

Every team other than really Boston wants a Center who can guard Dwight...

haha atleast they have a decent center..we have Horford who's not a true center and as back-up Zaza......lol

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:33 pm

Peaches, NOBODY can guard him, just quit. lol.

TonyEM, Dwight will take Yao to school.

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:36 pm

Define. wrote:: Peaches, NOBODY can guard him, just quit. lol.

TonyEM, Dwight will take Yao to school.

=P
I will NEVER quit!
I atleast want an upgrade for a center...but NOT Shaq!!

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:36 pm

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:37 pm

bye bye Z ): wrote:: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

lol, keep Shaq
I want Marvin

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:38 pm

Tony, in 08-09 last time Yao and Dwight went head to head, Dwight wasn't even 6'11", Yao was better, Dwight wasn't established into who he is yet, and Dwight's numbers were like 13/9 and 12/10, with Yao's being 20/12 and 22/10.

This year, not only is Yao worse because of aging, he is also worse because of the injury he is coming off of. Besides, Dwight just keeps getting better and better.

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:39 pm

Define. wrote:: Peaches, NOBODY can guard him, just quit. lol.

TonyEM, Dwight will take Yao to school.

thats not what history of their matchups says..

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:39 pm

Look @ their overall head to head stats over the years a healthy Yao outrebounds him and almost dropped 40 on him as well. He had like 36 or 37 points on Dwight.

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:40 pm

Define. wrote:: Tony, in 08-09 last time Yao and Dwight went head to head, Dwight wasn't even 6'11", Yao was better, Dwight wasn't established into who he is yet, and Dwight's numbers were like 13/9 and 12/10, with Yao's being 20/12 and 22/10.

This year, not only is Yao worse because of aging, he is also worse because of the injury he is coming off of. Besides, Dwight just keeps getting better and better.

dwight avreaged 21 and 14.2 back then..

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:44 pm

When? while Yao was in prime and Dwight was 22, 2 years ago!?

Well, in that same season, Iverson, Redd, K-Mart, Maggette, and Richard Jefferson were all Top 20 scorers.

Also that season, David West was All-Star material, Mike Dunleavy was better than Brandon Roy, and Ben Gordon was dropping 20 a game for Chicago.

That's 2 years ago.

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:44 pm

Ryan clady jr wrote:

Define. wrote:: Tony, in 08-09 last time Yao and Dwight went head to head, Dwight wasn't even 6'11", Yao was better, Dwight wasn't established into who he is yet, and Dwight's numbers were like 13/9 and 12/10, with Yao's being 20/12 and 22/10.

This year, not only is Yao worse because of aging, he is also worse because of the injury he is coming off of. Besides, Dwight just keeps getting better and better.

dwight avreaged 21 and 14.2 back then..

I was talking about when they went head to head in 08-09. Not their averages.

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:46 pm

Peaches (: wrote:

bye bye Z ): wrote:: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

lol, keep Shaq
I want Marvin

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww marvin.
kinda ew shaq

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:26 pm

Shaq=Beast

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:26 pm

As recent as 2008-2009 Yao Ming put up better numbers on DH12...

Nov. 28, 2008: HOU (100) - ORL (95)

Yao - 9/15, 22 Points, 13 Rbs,
DH12 - 5/10, 13 Points, 9 Rbs

April 7, 2009: HOU (93) - ORL (83)

Yao - 8/13, 20 Points, 16 Rbs
DH12 - 5/11, 13 Pts, 10 Rbs

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:27 pm

bye bye Z ): wrote:

Peaches (: wrote:

bye bye Z ): wrote:: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

lol, keep Shaq
I want Marvin

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww marvin.
kinda ew shaq

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Shaq
Gooooooooo Marvin
Razz

lol

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:32 pm

TonyEM: Come Back Home wrote:: As recent as 2008-2009 Yao Ming put up better numbers on DH12...

Nov. 28, 2008: HOU (100) - ORL (95)

Yao - 9/15, 22 Points, 13 Rbs,
DH12 - 5/10, 13 Points, 9 Rbs

April 7, 2009: HOU (93) - ORL (83)

Yao - 8/13, 20 Points, 16 Rbs
DH12 - 5/11, 13 Pts, 10 Rbs

Thats what I was talking about. You said dropped 40 points on him... Combined games dont matter..

Subject: Re: Williams in CLE, Shaq in ATL? Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:38 pm

Not that it matters though cause you prolly right this last injury sustained from Yao may be hard to come back from and he may not be as good as before cause of it. The thing is though Yao has gotten the better of DH12 as of now and as dominant and forceful Dwight is and how he's established himself as a All-Star I've also seen some players be able to keep up with him. Yao is or was (last injury) one of them.

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