Lakers vs Celtics Thread

ive looked alot of places for this thread because in this rivarly theres all ways a good argement and i want to argue..

so witch team:
Had The Better players
Witch was the more winning franchice etc.

Interesting question.You should have put in the history part but what ever

Q1:I think the Lakers had the better players,not that the Celtics didn't have legends of their own but aside Larry Bird,Bill Russell who can be argued as the G.O.A.T,there aren't other strong competitors for that.John Havlicek can be argued in the Top 10(Bill Simmons might make a case for him) but the others,can't.There are players like McHale,Cowens,Cousy who can be placed in the Top 30 at least.

But on the Lakers,it's different story.You have Magic Johnson,Kareem Abdul Jabbar,Shaquille O'Neal,Kobe Bryant who all of them can be argued as the G.O.A.T,not to forget that there were the likes of Baylor,West who can also be placed among the Top 10 and other among the 50 greatest in Worthy,Mikan and so on

Q2:Celtics have more NBA Titles won,Lakers have won more Conference and Division titles,have better winning percent however in the finals head to head they have a score of 9-3 against Boston.Case can be made for LA but i think Boston is still the top team in the league's history.LA will more likely win a championship in the next 10-15 years so they will be probably better

my bad bout history

i agree with the players part..because lakers got great players in there leage

but i dissagree with celtics bring more winninger because they only have one more championship..witch we may tie next season thats all but we have more conference and division tittles and winning percentage so i give the lakers nod on both..

if it was a five on 5 with all there great player..lakers would be beasting on them celtics

None would be beasting on Bill-McHAle(KG)-LArry-Pierce-Cousey.

Primes:

Cousy
Pierce
Bird
Garnett
Russell
6th: McHale

Primes:

Johnson
Bryant
Baylor
O'Neal
Jabbar
6th: West

celtics

pg.bob cousy
sg.ray allen (in there history c`s dont have good sg`s)
sf.larry bird
pf.mchale
c.russel

vs

lakers
pg.magic jhonson
sg.kobe bryant/jarry west
sf.elgin baylor
pf.pau gasol
c.shaq.chamberlain/karrem

Take out Accomplishment

Magic or Cousey? Magic
Kobe or Pierce? Kobe
Baylor or Bird? Bird
O'Neal or KG? KG for me.
Jabbar or Russell? Can go both ways, tie for me.
West or McHale? 2nd Tie.

and i think lakers would win that one

and i think lakers would win that one

Chris wrote:

Take out Accomplishment

Magic or Cousey? Magic
Kobe or Pierce? Kobe
Baylor or Bird? Bird
O'Neal or KG? KG for me.
Jabbar or Russell? Can go both ways, tie for me.
West or McHale? 2nd Tie.

garnett over shaq..in there primes..29.7 points and 13.6 rebounds vs garnett ???
you have o me joking..w

wast and mchale a tie??? dude jerry west the logo wins

I said take out Accomplishment's.
I really believe is better, KG had way more talent and with a right situtation he would have won as much as Shaq won.
KG in his prime. 24ppg/14rpg/5asp/2.5bpg an around 1.5 spg.

ok vs.

about 30 ppg
14 rpg
3.7 (ish) apg
3.5 bpg
..

wait that seems debateable

i clearly think lakkers would win..if we we use paul to howard`s suggested line up than lakers will beat the celtics..

If you're doing match-ups, than here goes from what I think:

PG: JOHNSON > Cousy
SG: BRYANT > Pierce
SF: Baylor < BIRD
PF: O'Neal < GARNETT
C: JABBAR >< RUSSELL
6: West < McHALE

Only reason I say that is because an in his prime Garnett can take any offensive player from PG to C and slow them down or shut them down. The other way around, O'Neal wouldn't come close to being able to catch up to KG. That would be like Usain Bolt vs Yao Ming.

Imo, with all of that, Boston would be dominant inside, while Lakers have the agility to play big (Magic CAN play any position, Kobe's a good rebounder, Baylor's an AMAZING rebounder) or play small (Magic, Kobe, and Baylor can play well on offense and defense at the wings and point, obviously).

As for the bench, I really didn't know much about either one of them, until I realized Jerry West was a great SCORER, while McHale was a great rebounder, scorer, passer, and defender.


Strategy wise?
Idk, I can see how Boston would murder LA in this game, while at the same time how LA would kill Boston in this game.

Yeah agree, it can go either way..

On paper from first glance at it the Lakers would hurt the Celtics. Like, it would be emberassing. Then you realize Russell can cancel Kareem out easily, Garnett one on one with O'Neal offense and defense would win, Bird is flat out better than Baylor, and Magic and Kobe in the backcourt are the only problems they'd have.

Since Defense wins Champs, i would go with Lakers for 1 game and Celtics for a series.
Celtics had always good defensive teams.
Cousey is the only problem here, Magic can rape him very easily.
Kobe will have to face a bigger opponent. Pierce is a good defender at his prime.
Bird is a great defender, he used his IQ to play defense and he knew what his opponent will do before. He was a very smart player.
KG one of the best defensive PF's, nuff said.
And Russell probably the best defender ever.

Yeah, Pierce was a great defender in his prime but I still don't think he can beat out Kobe Bryant at his best.

D12CP3 wrote:

Yeah, Pierce was a great defender in his prime but I still don't think he can beat out Kobe Bryant at his best.

True that.

yea..but your forgetting WILT CHAMBERLAIN..the dude ave.50...halff of your teams scoring...so the inside game isnt all thaat good for celtics

shaq:30 ppg 14 rpg
kareem:38,000+ points
Wilt chamberlain:50 points...

those are know as the top dominating big man in history so i dont think celtics would win on the inside game..than you add magic jhonson who some people debate as the second best player and you add kobe who in his prime had the ability too take over the game..and jery west a scorer the logo..

i cant see lakers losing that one

the lakers have had better players.
the lakers have had a better history.

lakers dont have a better history tho..

they lost in the finals 15 times..
they lost to the celtics 9 times..

but lakers have the better players and lakers would win on a 5 on 5

No comment on the thread....


But why the hell are people putting Shaq @ PF?
Put him at C, and Kareem @ PF.
Good god...

Actually I will comment on this thread..

Cousy is overrated...
He played in the 50's...nuff said.
He wouldn't last in this league right now...

And neither would Russell...
Best defensive player, my ass...

And why the hell is KG on the all-celtics team?
I don't know about you guys...but he'll always be a 'Wolf to me...
Same with Ray....he's only played 3 yrs with the Celtics...WTF with them being on the all-celtics team.
That is totally undermining the players who actually played for a while with the Celtics...