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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 1:32 pm

I miss his old days Sad Now he became just a liability to some
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 1:48 pm

The Knicks aren't much better than the Grizzlies. Not much of an upgrade if he did go lol
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 2:03 pm

Knicks are worse that the grizzlies.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 2:24 pm

Wow....getting rejected by the knicks.....thats humiliating
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 2:47 pm

I think the residue of Stephon Marbury is still fresh on their minds...

The funny thing I read was that the Knicks were worried about Iverson stunting the growth of their young guards... LOL!

They have one young guard in Toney Douglas. They're not making the playoffs. WTF does one year make?

I think I just wanted Iverson to go to the Knicks.

Goodbye New York... HEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO MIAMI!!!


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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 2:48 pm

Knicks are way better than the Grizzlies any time the team's 2nd best player in OJ Mayo is at odds with the franchise player in Rudy Gay & the franchise player doesn't want any part of resigning to the team is automatically a suck ass team. Plus, any team that has Zach Randolph on him would suck that's a given cause Zach Randolph is a punk/malcontent/anything else bad you can throw at him. The only bright spots on the Grizzlies are Marc Gasol, Sam Young, and DeMarre Carroll.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:11 pm

Grizzlies are better, even if there chemistry is terrible ( so are knicks) , the talent alone makes them better than the knicks. And randolph isn't a cancer, He's 22/10



conley=duhon

Mayo>hughes


gay>danilo

randolph>chandler+harrington together

lee> gasol


And there bench is better than NY
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Al Harrington > Zach Randolph I've seen the presence of both of them in NY . And on paper it would seem that the Grizzlies may be more talented, but that does not mean they are a better team. They are run even more porous than the way our front-office has ran us over the years & are nearly bankrupt. Gay is the guy who is holding the fort & he will be gone most likely. Not to mention Lionel Hollins looks like an idiot. Say what you want about Mike D, but he's successful. And NY has a better bench and a not struggling Duhon brings way more to the table than what Conley brings. Hughes isn't as consistent as Mayo offensively, but he can put up Mayo's scoring explosions and Hughes actually plays defense, passes, and rebound much to a greater extent than Mayo. He isn't better, but is more versatile. Once more the bench in NY is better.

Al Harrington
Nate Robinson
Jared Jeffries
Toney Douglas - Is nice
Eddy Curry
Jordan Hill - Could be nice
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Jamaal Tinsley = Better than Conley & should start, better than Duhon if it's the old Tinsley we see now & if he isn't an off-court hassle.

Darrell Arthur - ehh, but he hustles
DeMarre Carroll
Marcus Williams - ehh
Sam Young
Steven Hunter - WTF
Hasheem Thabeet - Could be good

How the fuck, just how the fuck do the Grizzlies have a better bench?
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:27 pm

I agree. New York actually has a really good bench. If the starters were better, that bench would be explosive.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:34 pm

Im still confused on why the knicks are suking bad
If they had kept crawford they wouldve actually been a good team cause i remeber last year in the beginning of the season they looked like a playoff bound team.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:44 pm

I know I think we would of Crawford did much more than score for us and hit shots in the clutch. He also was a pretty good distributor he's given us 5 APG For the most part he was the guy down the stretch for us he hit some big gamewinners. Being that last year he was traded away and Harrington nicely contributed the scoring load with Crawford's departure. The thing about Harrington and any of the other Knicks is that they can not hit the big shots. This is a huge problem being that are defense as a team is horrendous, so we would have to score outrageous numbers just to win a game and even if we do the chances of losing are still high cause of the fact that we do not have a big time shooter in the clutch. Last year the Knicks lost 18 games in which they lost by a margin less than 5.

This season is replicating itself once more not only is our defense still porous, but because of this the common trend this season is the Knicks get off to bad starts and have a mountain to climb down by double digits. When they do come back the game is close and they have lost a lot in the closing seconds by just a couple of points. It seems that in the clutch our players tend to freeze up. This was not JC at all & the bad defense continues down the stretch. I miss JC on our team, but on an economical standpoint I understand.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:47 pm

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Im still confused on why the knicks are suking bad
If they had kept crawford they wouldve actually been a good team cause i remeber last year in the beginning of the season they looked like a playoff bound team.

I think it's just chemistry and really bad defense. I mean look at the Rockets. No Yao... No T-Mac... yet those guys love playing together and they listen to Rick Adelman and follow the game plan thats implemented.

I don't think anyone on the Knicks save for Lee and Gallinari are worth hanging on to and all the attention is focused on 2010. It gives all the other players no... point of focus. No goal. No one in NY cares what happens this season and I think that feeling is shared by the players.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:51 pm

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Al Harrington > Zach Randolph I've seen the presence of both of them in NY . And on paper it would seem that the Grizzlies may be more talented, but that does not mean they are a better team. They are run even more porous than the way our front-office has ran us over the years & are nearly bankrupt. Gay is the guy who is holding the fort & he will be gone most likely. Not to mention Lionel Hollins looks like an idiot. Say what you want about Mike D, but he's successful. And NY has a better bench and a not struggling Duhon brings way more to the table than what Conley brings. Hughes isn't as consistent as Mayo offensively, but he can put up Mayo's scoring explosions and Hughes actually plays defense, passes, and rebound much to a greater extent than Mayo. He isn't better, but is more versatile. Once more the bench in NY is better.

Al Harrington
Nate Robinson
Jared Jeffries
Toney Douglas - Is nice
Eddy Curry
Jordan Hill - Could be nice
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Jamaal Tinsley = Better than Conley & should start, better than Duhon if it's the old Tinsley we see now & if he isn't an off-court hassle.

Darrell Arthur - ehh, but he hustles
DeMarre Carroll
Marcus Williams - ehh
Sam Young
Steven Hunter - WTF
Hasheem Thabeet - Could be good

How the fuck, just how the fuck do the Grizzlies have a better bench?



Zach randolph>al harrington as a player. Harrington might look better in Ny because he is lighter and a better shooter and tht works well with dantoni's run and gun bullshit. And yes your right Ny's bench is slightly better...I dont get why you put " how the fuck"..it's a possiblity. I still think memphis is better, Simply more talent.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:55 pm

I agree with that too we have 8 players on our roster in the last years of their contract & only Lee, Harrington (from time to time), & the surging Hughes are living up to what it is to be a NBA player on the Knicks. The rest of them could care two shits they are not in this for the long haul they think, so what's the point may be the logic they emphasize. This is wrong & cancerous to any team concept. Gallo's contract has been already extended past 2010-2011. As, it stands now Lee is the obvious choice to extend his contract. Harrington and an off-chance Hughes could be workable extensions only if they sign a minimum if they don't they shouldn't be signed. It seems that they don't like to play with one another & this has been the case since the Marvury years when NY was not a good offensive and/or defensive team.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:56 pm

If Memphis' talent and New York's bench became one team they'd make the playoffs in the east.

8th seed.

Well... as long as you drop Randolph for David Lee.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:58 pm

Whats the difference between randolph and lee? Besides zach has more post moves,better jumpshot.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 3:58 pm

Lee plays no defense.he doesn't have many moves. but people don't call lee a cancer
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 4:02 pm

I agree with that as well

PG. TONEY DOUGLAS
SG. O.J. MAYO
SF. RUDY GAY
PF. DAVID LEE
C. MARC GASOL
6. Al Harrington
7. Danilo Gallinari - *Instead of Nate Robinson
8. Jared Jeffries
9. Eddy Curry
10. Jordan Hill
12. Darko Milicic
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 4:04 pm

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Lee plays no defense.he doesn't have many moves. but people don't call lee a cancer

He plays hard and he doesn't cost you possessions by taken god awful shots. He doesn't punch out his teammates (like Zack who has done that 3 times) and like you said he isn't a locker room cancer. He knows what his limitations are and plays to his strengths.

That's the difference between Randolph and Lee.

Oh... and even though Lee isn't the best defender he is leaps and bounds a better defender than Randolph.


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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 4:05 pm

TonyEM wrote:
I agree with that as well

PG. TONEY DOUGLAS
SG. O.J. MAYO
SF. RUDY GAY
PF. DAVID LEE
C. MARC GASOL
6. Al Harrington
7. Danilo Gallinari - *Instead of Nate Robinson
8. Jared Jeffries
9. Eddy Curry
10. Jordan Hill
12. Darko Milicic


BINGO!
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 4:06 pm

Oh..I see very clearly!
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 4:10 pm

If David Lee plays "no defense", which I agree isn't his main intangible than what does Zach Randolph play? Please tell me it's not defense, cause that guy doesn't even know that term. Not to mention he overshoots the ball and makes sloppy decisions, is a good rebounder & shooter (offense), but has no athleticism whatsoever. Combine all this with being lazy and having a poor attitude and the fact that teams normally get better after he leaves them is why he is a cancer.

David Lee is a hustler gives it is all, is pretty damn athletic and unlike the southpaw Z.BO, David Lee is equally dangerous finishing with whichever hand being that he is ambidextrous. Not to mention David Lee has got his rebounds and shoots at a high % even when he was wrongfully on the bench in Isiah's team. He doesn't need to shoot the ball so many times and miss to score 20+, like Z.BO does. Plus, David Lee has added some pretty good low-post moves and does have a pretty reliable 14-20 footer right now. Also David Lee does something else pretty damn well something that Z.Bo doesn't do much of, pass. Lee gets assists he knows how to hit the open man isn't at all selfish. Zach Randolph would always be a stat padder and nothing more and he never gives it his full effort when was the last time you saw Zach post a 37/25 game? David Lee has done this and he at least undersized and all tries to guard PF/C and even SF he tried guarding LBJ23. Z.Bo would just stand there doing nothing waiting to getback on offense.
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PostSubject: Re: AI will not go to the Knicks   AI will not go to the Knicks EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 4:13 pm

I never said zach plays D
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